Friday, August 14, 2009

Something Brand New Has Taken Place!

During the month of July 2009 JM's Enterprises, 1215 Willow Pass Road * Pittsburg CA,(925) 439-8118 was the host to a powerful demonstration, the Creator has given me the ability to speak in the tongue of angels in order to provide a wake-up call that will in time include the salvation of the entire world.

You too can witness what the world believe's is impossible to produce! email: godsdesire@rocketmail.com. DON'T MISS OUT!

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Steve said...

"I would love to know more about your upbringing, if you're willing to share. How old was your father? Did your parents raise you?"

Goblinbee, my father was 21 when I was born, and he and my mom split up soon after I was born. I lived with my mom and grandparents until I was 7 and my mom remarried. I then moved away with my mom and stepdad. But I'd have to say that my grandparents raised me more than my parents did.

Anonymous said...

Good night, all. I subbed today in a kindergarten, and I'll be with the same group again tomorrow. They are a cute class, but, still, they are all five years old, and there are 24 of them (and only one of me!). I was so tired at the end of the school day, and tomorrow will be another long one.

Zzzzz...

Steve said...

"But as each person had their chance to talk (there were eleven of us), I found I wasn't so interested in their stories. They rambled on about whatever they wanted. Giving them my full attention (which I did) was quite the challenge."

They don't mind if an outsider sits in on their meetings and listens to their boring stories?

Steve said...

Good night, Goblinbee. Good night, all.

Tat tvam asi.

Anonymous said...

"They don't mind if an outsider sits in on their meetings and listens to their boring stories?"

Ha! No, they seemed happy I was there. There are certain meetings that are closed to people not in the program, but most are open.

Now, back to Plan A...Zzzzz...

Coonhound said...

Why would they? We sit here and listen to you Naggy, do you mind?

Coonhound said...

Buddah Thought for the Day:

Wise man provoke self-induced headache when he tells woman to "stay calm".

:)

Goodnight everyone.

Anonymous said...

Watchout everyone, Nagarajuna is hacking computers. He didn't get mine, but he got into some confidential business docs with personal information of a young girl Those docs have confidential information and it is a Federal Crime.

Nagarjuna said:

"Vladb, .. Now you say I'm a "pedophile lover" and, therefore, "worse than the actual pedophile,"

I would be obligated to love or, at least try to love, Garrido

All you've done is continue to babble on about how you'd like to rape or see others rape and torture this sick man for the rest of his life for his sick deeds and then see him agonize in hell forever and ever for them.

it seems to me that our species is doomed by its inability to rise above its baser emotions and see things clearly. In this case, this means seeing that it is wrong to hate and publicly advocate the rape and torture of a human being for his sick acts."

August 29, 2009 9:21 AM

Then Nagarjuna said:

And while you're at it, kiss my big sweaty ass while I unleash monstrous flatulence in your face. :-)

October 17, 2009 5:12 PM

Then Nagarjuna said:

if we overreact to it the way you describe and call it such an awful, disgustingly repulsive, monstrous thing that destroys children's lives, how does it REALLY help

October 18, 2009 9:31 AM

Then Nagarjuna said:

Let me spread my cheeks for you, Boogie, "Jeff," Samantha, and Freak. Move in close and prepare to inhale deeply. :-)

October 18, 2009 10:11 AM

Then Nagarjuna said:

Don't you know that I am God? :-)

October 18, 2009 10:16 AM


You are a psychopath

Anonymous said...

That's right Nagarjuna. We know you hacked Teresa's daughter's server. We have some of the logs from your little shit parade. Maybe it is enough, and maybe it is not. But this I know, you and your flunkies are an assholes. You are finished. This little girl worked so hard to get where she is and look what you do. This is you Nagarjuna, through and through. YOu have a psychlogical problem. This dirty deed was certainly not intelligent!

You defend pedophiles from outlandish HATEFUL WORDS, but you use the same DISGUSTING HATEFUL WORDS against other people that merely say words to you. Pedophiles do not deserve hateful words? But others who offend you do? WHAT kind of sense does that make. Shit, look who I am asking. YOu are a psychopath!!!! JeffSees is right, there is something very wrong with you. You didn't stop with the words, your control habits are so bad, you went on the physical attack. You are nothing but another Garrido. And you two little followers, don't bet you will not be looked at as conspirators. I hope we have enough in the logs, to bust your asses. But come on MO FO, I'm open, I'm not on the server anymore, come hack me you freak.... come on, I dare ya. Yes, we have also reported this to the authorities. You can run and you can hide, but eventually they will catch up with you, whether it is for this, or something else. We do know who you really are and where you are. You violated intellecual trademark laws, you violated this girls personal privacy. If anything, anything at all goes missing, or there is any sort of identify fraud, we know where you are you little chicken shit. You will be sitting next to your idle Garrido.

JeffSees, please feel free to copy and paste this statement as many times as possible too. I didn't understand why you were doing it until today, but it certainly makes sense. I am glad he didn't get into your computer too.

Steve said...

"Jeff," I see you're still playing your same, futile game, like an old phonograph needle stuck in a groove. I'm guessing it was because the old Nag humiliated you at every turn so much last week that you've concluded that you can't out-argue or outwit him. No, the best you can do is keep posting and reposting the same false accusations and misrepresentations over and over and hope that someone is duped by it. It's kind of like throwing as much fecal material as you can at a wall and hoping some of it sticks. :-)

But you know something, "Jeff"? I don't think any of it will. You want to know why? Because I think the wall is amply coated with the teflon of my rebuttals of your false accusations and by my corrections of your misrepresentations, along with the facts themselves that are plainly evident to any open-minded, intelligent, and perceptive reader.

So, fling away my friend. You'll only end up getting coated with it yourself and stinking to high heavens. :-) It's already getting pretty smelly in here, and the odor ISN'T coming from me. :-)

But I have a better suggestion. If you still have any grievances against the old Nag, talk to the new Nag and let's settle them like thoughtful, intelligent men. You ARE a man, aren't you? :-)

Steve said...

For the record, here are the facts and not the falsehoods if not lies uttered by my detractors:

"Watchout everyone, Nagarajuna is hacking computers. He didn't get mine, but he got into some confidential business docs with personal information of a young girl Those docs have confidential information and it is a Federal Crime."

This is false if not an outright lie. I have never hacked a computer and wouldn't even know how to begin.

"Vladb, .. Now you say I'm a "pedophile lover" and, therefore, "worse than the actual pedophile,"

I would be obligated to love or, at least try to love, Garrido"

Vlabd DID accuse me of being a "pedophile lover." He was wrong. What I DID say is that IF I were Christian, which I am not, I would be obligated to love or at least try to love everyone as a fellow child of God, unlike the self-professed Christians hypocritically venting hateful fantasies of Garrido's earthly and posthumous torture.

"All you've done is continue to babble on about how you'd like to rape or see others rape and torture this sick man for the rest of his life for his sick deeds and then see him agonize in hell forever and ever for them.

I DID say this. This IS what was going on at the time I said it.

"it seems to me that our species is doomed by its inability to rise above its baser emotions and see things clearly. In this case, this means seeing that it is wrong to hate and publicly advocate the rape and torture of a human being for his sick acts."

I DID say this, and I stand by it.

"Then Nagarjuna said:

And while you're at it, kiss my big sweaty ass while I unleash monstrous flatulence in your face. :-)"

I jokingly said it, apologized for it, and now retract it.

"Then Nagarjuna said:

if we overreact to it the way you describe and call it such an awful, disgustingly repulsive, monstrous thing that destroys children's lives, how does it REALLY help"

I said it and meant it. Speaking of child abuse in the worst of terms may very well cause the victim to needlessly see it in the worst of terms.

"Then Nagarjuna said:

Let me spread my cheeks for you, Boogie, "Jeff," Samantha, and Freak. Move in close and prepare to inhale deeply. :-)"

I jokingly said it, apologized for it, and now retract it.

"Then Nagarjuna said:

Don't you know that I am God? :-)"

According to many mystics the world over, we ARE or our essence IS the Ultimate Reality or "God." "Tat tvam asi" is the supreme Upanishadic formulation of this principle.

"You are a psychopath"

Who says this who even knows what "psychopath" means much less is expertly qualified to render this diagnosis of anyone?

Steve said...

October 22

Mind is consciousness which has put on limitations. You are originally unlimited and perfect. Later you take on limitations and become the mind.
– Ramana Maharshi

"Much of our daily behavior is conditioned by forces deep below the conscious level of our minds. This means we are limited to a conditioned, automatic way of thinking and responding to the events of life around us. When such a conditioned behavior is strong, we think of it as a fixed part of the personality. Othello is jealous, Hamlet indecisive, Macbeth ambitious; that, we say, is their nature. To many biologists, this is something that is built into our very genes.

I do not agree. Jealousy, vacillation, competition, and the rest are not permanent mental furniture; they are a process. A mental trait is a thought repeated over and over a thousand times, leading to words repeated a thousand times, resulting in action repeated a thousand times. At the beginning it is only a burgeoning habit of thought; you do not necessarily act on it. But once it becomes rigid, it dictates behavior. It is possible, through the practice of meditation and the other disciplines, to go against these conditioned ways of thinking and actually change ourselves from the inside out."
--Eknath Easwaran

Anonymous said...

Watchout everyone, Nagarajuna is hacking computers. He didn't get mine, but he got into some confidential business docs with personal information of a young girl Those docs have confidential information and it is a Federal Crime.

Nagarjuna said:

"Vladb, .. Now you say I'm a "pedophile lover" and, therefore, "worse than the actual pedophile,"

I would be obligated to love or, at least try to love, Garrido

All you've done is continue to babble on about how you'd like to rape or see others rape and torture this sick man for the rest of his life for his sick deeds and then see him agonize in hell forever and ever for them.

it seems to me that our species is doomed by its inability to rise above its baser emotions and see things clearly. In this case, this means seeing that it is wrong to hate and publicly advocate the rape and torture of a human being for his sick acts."

August 29, 2009 9:21 AM

Then Nagarjuna said:

And while you're at it, kiss my big sweaty ass while I unleash monstrous flatulence in your face. :-)

October 17, 2009 5:12 PM

Then Nagarjuna said:

if we overreact to it the way you describe and call it such an awful, disgustingly repulsive, monstrous thing that destroys children's lives, how does it REALLY help

October 18, 2009 9:31 AM

Then Nagarjuna said:

Let me spread my cheeks for you, Boogie, "Jeff," Samantha, and Freak. Move in close and prepare to inhale deeply. :-)

October 18, 2009 10:11 AM

Then Nagarjuna said:

Don't you know that I am God? :-)

October 18, 2009 10:16 AM


You are a psychopath

Anonymous said...

That's right Nagarjuna. We know you hacked Teresa's daughter's server. We have some of the logs from your little shit parade. Maybe it is enough, and maybe it is not. But this I know, you and your flunkies are an assholes. You are finished. This little girl worked so hard to get where she is and look what you do. This is you Nagarjuna, through and through. YOu have a psychlogical problem. This dirty deed was certainly not intelligent!

You defend pedophiles from outlandish HATEFUL WORDS, but you use the same DISGUSTING HATEFUL WORDS against other people that merely say words to you. Pedophiles do not deserve hateful words? But others who offend you do? WHAT kind of sense does that make. Shit, look who I am asking. YOu are a psychopath!!!! JeffSees is right, there is something very wrong with you. You didn't stop with the words, your control habits are so bad, you went on the physical attack. You are nothing but another Garrido. And you two little followers, don't bet you will not be looked at as conspirators. I hope we have enough in the logs, to bust your asses. But come on MO FO, I'm open, I'm not on the server anymore, come hack me you freak.... come on, I dare ya. Yes, we have also reported this to the authorities. You can run and you can hide, but eventually they will catch up with you, whether it is for this, or something else. We do know who you really are and where you are. You violated intellecual trademark laws, you violated this girls personal privacy. If anything, anything at all goes missing, or there is any sort of identify fraud, we know where you are you little chicken shit. You will be sitting next to your idle Garrido.

JeffSees, please feel free to copy and paste this statement as many times as possible too. I didn't understand why you were doing it until today, but it certainly makes sense. I am glad he didn't get into your computer too.

BrendaStar said...

Blogger Nag said:

"They don't mind if an outsider sits in on their meetings and listens to their boring stories?"






why anyone still converses with you Nag I have no idea.

That statement was one of the rudest statements I ever have heard...

BrendaStar said...

and who is Keal?

BrendaStar said...

part in saying your an alcoholic drug addict is a part of accepting it so you can change it most addicts are in denial that they have a problem! that is why they do the whole "Hi my name is so and so and I am an alcoholic/drug addict/whatever else they are addicted too." its a part of accepting it within them selves.. So they can change their behavior!

They go by the "big book" it explains everything.

BrendaStar said...

i will always defend the under dog! and in this case the boring drug addicts are the underdog to me..

i would never want someone to read those statements and think that we all think they are boring stories and that these people have nothing to offer and or share..

IT JUST ISNT SO...

Steve said...

"why anyone still converses with you Nag I have no idea."

Brenda, if you read my comment in its context, perhaps you would have seen that I was responding to Goblinbee's implicit characterization of their stories. She said she had difficulty keeping her attention focused on them. In inferred from this that SHE found or may have found them boring. As for myself, I think I would have found them very interesting and would have had no difficulty focusing on them.

Glad I could clear up any misimpressions people may have had of my meaning.

Steve said...

"Jeff," I see you're still playing your same, futile game, like an old phonograph needle stuck in a groove. I'm guessing it was because the old Nag humiliated you at every turn so much last week that you've concluded that you can't out-argue or outwit him. No, the best you can do is keep posting and reposting the same false accusations and misrepresentations over and over and hope that someone is duped by it. It's kind of like throwing as much fecal material as you can at a wall and hoping some of it sticks. :-)

But you know something, "Jeff"? I don't think any of it will. You want to know why? Because I think the wall is amply coated with the teflon of my rebuttals of your false accusations and by my corrections of your misrepresentations, along with the facts themselves that are plainly evident to any open-minded, intelligent, and perceptive reader.

So, fling away my friend. You'll only end up getting coated with it yourself and stinking to high heavens. :-) It's already getting pretty smelly in here, and the odor ISN'T coming from me. :-)

But I have a better suggestion. If you still have any grievances against the old Nag, talk to the new Nag and let's settle them like thoughtful, intelligent men. You ARE a man, aren't you? :-)

Steve said...

"That's right Nagarjuna. We know you hacked Teresa's daughter's server. We have some of the logs from your little shit parade. "

Now you're outright lying. And no longer just about your identity but about something much more important. You're lying about having evidence of me committing a crime that I did not commit. I'm disappointed in even you that you've stooped THAT low.

"YOu have a psychlogical problem. This dirty deed was certainly not intelligent!"

I'm afraid YOU are the one with the psychological problem. You should get to a therapist pronto. Tell him or her the Nag sent you.

You defend pedophiles from outlandish HATEFUL WORDS, but you use the same DISGUSTING HATEFUL WORDS against other people that merely say words to you.

Ridiculous! Someone has falsely accused me many times of being a pedophile and said many other hateful things to and about me, and you have supported her. So, I jokingly told you to let me fart in your faces and later apologized for it. That is NOTHING like saying you want to see another human being raped and tortured to death before he burns forever in hell. Believe me, my farts are not THAT bad. :-) And I'm glad to see you admit that the "hateful words" people expressed here toward the Garridos WERE "outlandish."

"You didn't stop with the words, your control habits are so bad, you went on the physical attack."

Blatant nonsense. I never physically attacked or seriously threatened to physically attack anyone. If you believe otherwise, you are delusional.

"You are nothing but another Garrido."

You sound nuttier by the minute.

"Yes, we have also reported this to the authorities."

Good. Report me till the proverbial cows come home for something I didn't do, and the "authorities" will eventually throw you in jail or the nuthouse for it.

"We do know who you really are and where you are."

Wow, I'm impressed, given how hard I've tried to hide from you. :-) Since you know who I am and where I am, why don't you and Boogie come for a visit. Samantha can come too. Just leave your handcuffs and weapons at home. We can go out to eat and settle our differences over a nice Asian meal at a local restaurant. You'll discover that ole Nag in person is not Satan incarnate but just a rather ordinary guy who's a little shy but really quite personable.

"You violated intellecual trademark laws, you violated this girls personal privacy."

You're full of bull manure.

Nevertheless, tat tvam asi.

Coonhound said...

Nagarjuna said,

"Coonhound, I wasn't meaning to suggest that you or anyone was doing what I was advising against."

October 21, 2009 3:08 PM

Well, I respectfully ask you to please explain the point of such a comment...

What did you mean to say or imply?

Think Nag!

T*H*I*N*K

Steve said...

"Well, I respectfully ask you to please explain the point of such a comment...

What did you mean to say or imply?

Think Nag!"

Coonhound, when I wrote that comment, I didn't perceive anyone to be overreacting to the sketchy details Denise had furnished as of that time. I was cautioning myself and the rest of us to get more facts before we jumped to conclusions about who the girl was and whether her death was unnatural and we reacted emotionally. I was not chastising anyone or accusing anyone of anything. I was suggesting that we get the facts and go from there, kind of like I did with Brenda about her conspiracy theories when I got jumped on.

With all due respect, there is nothing wrong with my making reasonable suggestions of this kind. But I think there IS something wrong with being jumped on for making them.

Think, Cooonhound, think! :-)

Coonhound said...

Nag,

You labeled the stories BORING, not GB.

GB in her own words said that the stories were not as interesting as she had anticipated. And based on her post to me, "Coonhound", I do believe that maybe she was implying that the discussions at the meeting weren't as drama filled and "juicey" as depicted in the movies.

But you labeled them Boring, my little "mystic monkey."

SIWL, :)

Coonhound said...

Oh Please,

I posted a story that you did NOT bother to read before S*P*EW*I*N*G your words of wisdom!

The facts were at that point this....

A little girls body was found in a landfill!

Think Nagarjuna.

Think!

Is that not tragic enough to make one sad?

O*M*G

Steve said...

Correction: I now see that it was Coonhound and not Denise who posted the original story about the finding of the body.

My cautionary comment, to which some have taken exception, was addressed to the original story and not to any subsequent comments regarding it.

Coonhound said...

You really can be a donkey sometimes!

Coonhound said...

"Oh..now, now, my sweet ignorant children, do not allow such a story get you "Worked Up" until I approve of all the facts."

Steve said...

Coonhound, I explained why I called the stories boring. I wasn't speaking for myself. I don't think I would have find them boring. Maybe Goblinbee didn't either even if she did fiund it difficult to focus on their "rambling" nature. But when I read her comment, I had the impression that she found them boring TO HER at that time, not that she devalued the people telling them or devalued their struggles with addiction.

In retrospect, I shouldn't have used that word, both because it was interpreted by one or more people as characterizing what I thought their stories were, and I shouldn't have meant to characterize Goblinbee's impression of her experience in that manner without being sure that WAS her impression.

Coonhound said...

Pfft, there he hides up his tree again.

Coonhound said...

Ok, nice save in regards to twisting GB's words...

Steve said...

Yes, Coonhound, the story WAS tragic enough to make one sad, no matter who the girl was and how she died, and I never said anything to the contrary in the comment that I made.

Steve said...

"You really can be a donkey sometimes!"

What are YOU being, Coonhound?

Coonhound said...

FYI,

That little girl's body HAS been positively and officially identified this morning as the missing FL girl named Somer.

:(

Steve said...

""Oh..now, now, my sweet ignorant children, do not allow such a story get you "Worked Up" until I approve of all the facts."

I said and meant nothing about MY approving of the facts, and I was criticizing no one for anything.

Steve said...

"That little girl's body HAS been positively and officially identified this morning as the missing FL girl named Somer."

That is VERY sad news.

Coonhound said...

I don't know NAG, You tell ME, what AM I being?

Steve said...

"Ok, nice save in regards to twisting GB's words..."

Again, I admit that I was wrong to use that word. But do you honestly mean to tell me that you don't think Goblinbee was essentially saying that she found those "rambling" stories boring? I thought she was saying that, and that's why I, as ill advised as it was, used that word in my reply to her.

Steve said...

Yes, what ARE you being, Coonhound?

Coonhound said...

LESSON:

Never precariously suggest to any woman that she should NOT GET WORKED UP.

(I'll send you a bill)

Coonhound said...

LESSON:

Its not WHAT you say, rather its HOW you say it.

(Too bad for you today is not two for tuesday)

Steve said...

"Never precariously suggest to any woman that she should NOT GET WORKED UP."

You essentially made the same suggestion last night, and it was duly noted then. But I will make any reasonable comment that I wish to make, whether it be to a woman or a man, and if somebody doesn't like it, they can get as worked up as they want and be as unpleasant as they want to me. For the reflects on THEM, not on ME.

And, by the way, you flatter yourself, Coonhound, in thinking that I would ever feel the need to "hide" from YOU.

Coonhound said...

You tell me "Oh Wise One"...

What AM I being?

Steve said...

"Its not WHAT you say, rather its HOW you say it."

You should take your own advice on this matter. If you didn't like what I said yesterday or last night, you could have conveyed this in a far better way.

Steve said...

"What AM I being?"

Needlessly unpleasant.

Coonhound said...

Nagarjuna,

Why are you getting so worked up?

So, twisted out of shape?

This really isn't good for the "New Nagarjuna".

Steve said...

Coonhound, I'm not "worked up" or "twisted out of shape." I'm just being straight with you and not playing games. You WERE needlessly unpleasant to me yesterday and you have continued in the same vein today. You asked me what I thought, and I told you. No BS.

Coonhound said...

Ahhh, so you can pick and play when YOUR in the mood?

Hmmm.

Coonhound said...

And at what point did you perceive me as being "needlessly unpleasant as opposed to facetious?

Steve said...

"Ahhh, so you can pick and play when YOUR in the mood?"

"Pick and play" at WHAT, Coonhound?

Steve said...

"And at what point did you perceive me as being "needlessly unpleasant as opposed to facetious?"

Were you being merely "facetious"?

Coonhound said...

Awww, our "new nag" is still but a tender little seedling, and I will hold off on facetious play until our seedling grows to be big and strong.

:)

Steve said...

"and I will hold off on facetious play until our seedling grows to be big and strong."

Was it merely "facetious play"?

Steve said...

And, did you not think that Goblinbee found those stories boring last night? :-)

Coonhound said...

Nagarjuna,

Please read our posts since I first posted that story last night.

Then, you tell me what You really think.

K? (No I'm not playing games right now, promise)

Coonhound said...

Ok my last post was regarding you asking me if I was merely only being facetious.

Reread, and rethink, then tell me if you see it in a different light.

K?

Coonhound said...

We can talk about GB's post once we finish with "facetious play"


If you don't mind, that is.

Anonymous said...

Watchout everyone, Nagarajuna is hacking computers. He didn't get mine, but he got into some confidential business docs with personal information of a young girl Those docs have confidential information and it is a Federal Crime.

Nagarjuna said:

"Vladb, .. Now you say I'm a "pedophile lover" and, therefore, "worse than the actual pedophile,"

I would be obligated to love or, at least try to love, Garrido

All you've done is continue to babble on about how you'd like to rape or see others rape and torture this sick man for the rest of his life for his sick deeds and then see him agonize in hell forever and ever for them.

it seems to me that our species is doomed by its inability to rise above its baser emotions and see things clearly. In this case, this means seeing that it is wrong to hate and publicly advocate the rape and torture of a human being for his sick acts."

August 29, 2009 9:21 AM

Then Nagarjuna said:

And while you're at it, kiss my big sweaty ass while I unleash monstrous flatulence in your face. :-)

October 17, 2009 5:12 PM

Then Nagarjuna said:

if we overreact to it the way you describe and call it such an awful, disgustingly repulsive, monstrous thing that destroys children's lives, how does it REALLY help

October 18, 2009 9:31 AM

Then Nagarjuna said:

Let me spread my cheeks for you, Boogie, "Jeff," Samantha, and Freak. Move in close and prepare to inhale deeply. :-)

October 18, 2009 10:11 AM

Then Nagarjuna said:

Don't you know that I am God? :-)

Steve said...

I think you were angry with me for the comment I made in reply to the initial story you posted yesterday, that this disposed you to misinterpret in a negative light everything I've subsequently said and done here, and that you've responded with mockery that doesn't come from the best part of your nature, and when you're called on it, you try to pass it off as mere facetiousness that had no underlying anger or malice behind it, suggesting, of course, that I have misperceived and reacted improperly to your "playful" words.

Anonymous said...

That's right Nagarjuna. We know you hacked Teresa's daughter's server. We have some of the logs from your little shit parade. Maybe it is enough, and maybe it is not. But this I know, you and your flunkies are an assholes. You are finished. This little girl worked so hard to get where she is and look what you do. This is you Nagarjuna, through and through. YOu have a psychlogical problem. This dirty deed was certainly not intelligent!

You defend pedophiles from outlandish HATEFUL WORDS, but you use the same DISGUSTING HATEFUL WORDS against other people that merely say words to you. Pedophiles do not deserve hateful words? But others who offend you do? WHAT kind of sense does that make. Shit, look who I am asking. YOu are a psychopath!!!! JeffSees is right, there is something very wrong with you. You didn't stop with the words, your control habits are so bad, you went on the physical attack. You are nothing but another Garrido. And you two little followers, don't bet you will not be looked at as conspirators. I hope we have enough in the logs, to bust your asses. But come on MO FO, I'm open, I'm not on the server anymore, come hack me you freak.... come on, I dare ya. Yes, we have also reported this to the authorities. You can run and you can hide, but eventually they will catch up with you, whether it is for this, or something else. We do know who you really are and where you are. You violated intellecual trademark laws, you violated this girls personal privacy. If anything, anything at all goes missing, or there is any sort of identify fraud, we know where you are you little chicken shit. You will be sitting next to your idle Garrido.

JeffSees, please feel free to copy and paste this statement as many times as possible too. I didn't understand why you were doing it until today, but it certainly makes sense. I am glad he didn't get into your computer too.

Coonhound said...

Lol, huh?

Steve said...

For the record, here are the facts and not the falsehoods if not lies uttered by my detractors:

"Watchout everyone, Nagarajuna is hacking computers. He didn't get mine, but he got into some confidential business docs with personal information of a young girl Those docs have confidential information and it is a Federal Crime."

This is false if not an outright lie. I have never hacked a computer and wouldn't even know how to begin.

"Vladb, .. Now you say I'm a "pedophile lover" and, therefore, "worse than the actual pedophile,"

I would be obligated to love or, at least try to love, Garrido"

Vlabd DID accuse me of being a "pedophile lover." He was wrong. What I DID say is that IF I were Christian, which I am not, I would be obligated to love or at least try to love everyone as a fellow child of God, unlike the self-professed Christians hypocritically venting hateful fantasies of Garrido's earthly and posthumous torture.

"All you've done is continue to babble on about how you'd like to rape or see others rape and torture this sick man for the rest of his life for his sick deeds and then see him agonize in hell forever and ever for them.

I DID say this. This IS what was going on at the time I said it.

"it seems to me that our species is doomed by its inability to rise above its baser emotions and see things clearly. In this case, this means seeing that it is wrong to hate and publicly advocate the rape and torture of a human being for his sick acts."

I DID say this, and I stand by it.

"Then Nagarjuna said:

And while you're at it, kiss my big sweaty ass while I unleash monstrous flatulence in your face. :-)"

I jokingly said it, apologized for it, and now retract it.

"Then Nagarjuna said:

if we overreact to it the way you describe and call it such an awful, disgustingly repulsive, monstrous thing that destroys children's lives, how does it REALLY help"

I said it and meant it. Speaking of child abuse in the worst of terms may very well cause the victim to needlessly see it in the worst of terms.

"Then Nagarjuna said:

Let me spread my cheeks for you, Boogie, "Jeff," Samantha, and Freak. Move in close and prepare to inhale deeply. :-)"

I jokingly said it, apologized for it, and now retract it.

"Then Nagarjuna said:

Don't you know that I am God? :-)"

According to many mystics the world over, we ARE or our essence IS the Ultimate Reality or "God." "Tat tvam asi" is the supreme Upanishadic formulation of this principle.

Steve said...

"Jeff," I see you're still playing your same, futile game, like an old phonograph needle stuck in a groove. I'm guessing it was because the old Nag humiliated you at every turn so much last week that you've concluded that you can't out-argue or outwit him. No, the best you can do is keep posting and reposting the same false accusations and misrepresentations over and over and hope that someone is duped by it. It's kind of like throwing as much fecal material as you can at a wall and hoping some of it sticks. :-)

But you know something, "Jeff"? I don't think any of it will. You want to know why? Because I think the wall is amply coated with the teflon of my rebuttals of your false accusations and by my corrections of your misrepresentations, along with the facts themselves that are plainly evident to any open-minded, intelligent, and perceptive reader.

So, fling away my friend. You'll only end up getting coated with it yourself and stinking to high heavens. :-) It's already getting pretty smelly in here, and the odor ISN'T coming from me. :-)

But I have a better suggestion. If you still have any grievances against the old Nag, talk to the new Nag and let's settle them like thoughtful, intelligent men. You ARE a man, aren't you? :-)

Steve said...

I'll be back after I drink my milkshake.

Coonhound said...

Angry at you? Goodness, no.

Steve said...

"Angry at you? Goodness, no."

Well then, as Emily Litella used to say, "Never mind." :-)

Coonhound said...

Nagarjuna,

I promise you I was not fueled by any "underlying anger or malice".

Steve said...

Wha WERE you "fueled" by, if you don't mind my asking?

Coonhound said...

Now I feel bad for having so much fun at your expense.

:(

Coonhound said...

Fueled by?

Well, truth is it really isn't a good thing to precariously advise a woman to not get worked up.

But coming from you, I laughed it off:)

And rather than unleashing anger, facetious play was unleashed.

Surely when I said "slapping the pee pee out of one particular budist baboon"...I felt that was a clear give away of my "facetious intent."

Steve said...

Well, Coonhound, IF "fun" is all it was, I feel a little sheepish for having read everything so wrongly. It's an object lesson in how easily words in cyberspace can be misinterpreted and lead to misunderstandings and personal conflicts. Maybe I'm a little "brittle" today in the wake of my tooth extraction yesterday. It hurts where that big back tooth used to be, I've been unable to eat satisfying foods, I didn't sleep much last night, I'm very concerned about the potentially deleterious effects of the antibiotic my dentist prescribed, and I'm just generally not in the best of sorts today. But I'm trying.

Steve said...

"Surely when I said "slapping the pee pee out of one particular budist baboon"...I felt that was a clear give away of my "facetious intent."

I suppose I saw it as roughly one part spite and one part playfulness. :-)

Coonhound said...

Awww, well I'm sorry for "my bad timing" Nag. I hate it that you feel so bad and then I made you feel worse on top of it all.

Coonhound said...

When I'm angry or PO'ed I don't typically play around about things. I guess I assumed you would have picked up on that by now. (Oops, my bad)

Anonymous said...

Watchout everyone, Nagarajuna is hacking computers. He didn't get mine, but he got into some confidential business docs with personal information of a young girl Those docs have confidential information and it is a Federal Crime.

Nagarjuna said:

"Vladb, .. Now you say I'm a "pedophile lover" and, therefore, "worse than the actual pedophile,"

I would be obligated to love or, at least try to love, Garrido

All you've done is continue to babble on about how you'd like to rape or see others rape and torture this sick man for the rest of his life for his sick deeds and then see him agonize in hell forever and ever for them.

it seems to me that our species is doomed by its inability to rise above its baser emotions and see things clearly. In this case, this means seeing that it is wrong to hate and publicly advocate the rape and torture of a human being for his sick acts."

August 29, 2009 9:21 AM

Then Nagarjuna said:

And while you're at it, kiss my big sweaty ass while I unleash monstrous flatulence in your face. :-)

October 17, 2009 5:12 PM

Then Nagarjuna said:

if we overreact to it the way you describe and call it such an awful, disgustingly repulsive, monstrous thing that destroys children's lives, how does it REALLY help

October 18, 2009 9:31 AM

Then Nagarjuna said:

Let me spread my cheeks for you, Boogie, "Jeff," Samantha, and Freak. Move in close and prepare to inhale deeply. :-)

October 18, 2009 10:11 AM

Then Nagarjuna said:

Don't you know that I am God? :-)

Steve said...

No problem, Goblinbee. The way I see it, I made myself react the way I did. Even if you hadn't been "playing," I could have taken it all in better stride. That's what the cognitive psychotherapists tell us, and I think they're probably right.

Anonymous said...

That's right Nagarjuna. We know you hacked Teresa's daughter's server. We have some of the logs from your little shit parade. Maybe it is enough, and maybe it is not. But this I know, you and your flunkies are an assholes. You are finished. This little girl worked so hard to get where she is and look what you do. This is you Nagarjuna, through and through. YOu have a psychlogical problem. This dirty deed was certainly not intelligent!

You defend pedophiles from outlandish HATEFUL WORDS, but you use the same DISGUSTING HATEFUL WORDS against other people that merely say words to you. Pedophiles do not deserve hateful words? But others who offend you do? WHAT kind of sense does that make. Shit, look who I am asking. YOu are a psychopath!!!! JeffSees is right, there is something very wrong with you. You didn't stop with the words, your control habits are so bad, you went on the physical attack. You are nothing but another Garrido. And you two little followers, don't bet you will not be looked at as conspirators. I hope we have enough in the logs, to bust your asses. But come on MO FO, I'm open, I'm not on the server anymore, come hack me you freak.... come on, I dare ya. Yes, we have also reported this to the authorities. You can run and you can hide, but eventually they will catch up with you, whether it is for this, or something else. We do know who you really are and where you are. You violated intellecual trademark laws, you violated this girls personal privacy. If anything, anything at all goes missing, or there is any sort of identify fraud, we know where you are you little chicken shit. You will be sitting next to your idle Garrido.

JeffSees, please feel free to copy and paste this statement as many times as possible too. I didn't understand why you were doing it until today, but it certainly makes sense. I am glad he didn't get into your computer too.

Steve said...

For the record, here are the facts and not the falsehoods if not lies uttered by my detractors:

"Watchout everyone, Nagarajuna is hacking computers. He didn't get mine, but he got into some confidential business docs with personal information of a young girl Those docs have confidential information and it is a Federal Crime."

This is false if not an outright lie. I have never hacked a computer and wouldn't even know how to begin.

"Vladb, .. Now you say I'm a "pedophile lover" and, therefore, "worse than the actual pedophile,"

I would be obligated to love or, at least try to love, Garrido"

Vlabd DID accuse me of being a "pedophile lover." He was wrong. What I DID say is that IF I were Christian, which I am not, I would be obligated to love or at least try to love everyone as a fellow child of God, unlike the self-professed Christians hypocritically venting hateful fantasies of Garrido's earthly and posthumous torture.

"All you've done is continue to babble on about how you'd like to rape or see others rape and torture this sick man for the rest of his life for his sick deeds and then see him agonize in hell forever and ever for them.

I DID say this. This IS what was going on at the time I said it.

"it seems to me that our species is doomed by its inability to rise above its baser emotions and see things clearly. In this case, this means seeing that it is wrong to hate and publicly advocate the rape and torture of a human being for his sick acts."

I DID say this, and I stand by it.

"Then Nagarjuna said:

And while you're at it, kiss my big sweaty ass while I unleash monstrous flatulence in your face. :-)"

I jokingly said it, apologized for it, and now retract it.

"Then Nagarjuna said:

if we overreact to it the way you describe and call it such an awful, disgustingly repulsive, monstrous thing that destroys children's lives, how does it REALLY help"

I said it and meant it. Speaking of child abuse in the worst of terms may very well cause the victim to needlessly see it in the worst of terms.

"Then Nagarjuna said:

Let me spread my cheeks for you, Boogie, "Jeff," Samantha, and Freak. Move in close and prepare to inhale deeply. :-)"

I jokingly said it, apologized for it, and now retract it.

"Then Nagarjuna said:

Don't you know that I am God? :-)"

According to many mystics the world over, we ARE or our essence IS the Ultimate Reality or "God." "Tat tvam asi" is the supreme Upanishadic formulation of this principle.

Steve said...

"That's right Nagarjuna. We know you hacked Teresa's daughter's server. We have some of the logs from your little shit parade. "

Now you're outright lying. And no longer just about your identity but about something much more important. You're lying about having evidence of me committing a crime that I did not commit. I'm disappointed in even you that you've stooped THAT low.

"YOu have a psychlogical problem. This dirty deed was certainly not intelligent!"

I'm afraid YOU are the one with the psychological problem. You should get to a therapist pronto. Tell him or her the Nag sent you.

You defend pedophiles from outlandish HATEFUL WORDS, but you use the same DISGUSTING HATEFUL WORDS against other people that merely say words to you.

Ridiculous! Someone has falsely accused me many times of being a pedophile and said many other hateful things to and about me, and you have supported her. So, I jokingly told you to let me fart in your faces and later apologized for it. That is NOTHING like saying you want to see another human being raped and tortured to death before he burns forever in hell. Believe me, my farts are not THAT bad. :-) And I'm glad to see you admit that the "hateful words" people expressed here toward the Garridos WERE "outlandish."

"You didn't stop with the words, your control habits are so bad, you went on the physical attack."

Blatant nonsense. I never physically attacked or seriously threatened to physically attack anyone. If you believe otherwise, you are delusional.

"You are nothing but another Garrido."

You sound nuttier by the minute.

"Yes, we have also reported this to the authorities."

Good. Report me till the proverbial cows come home for something I didn't do, and the "authorities" will eventually throw you in jail or the nuthouse for it.

"We do know who you really are and where you are."

Wow, I'm impressed, given how hard I've tried to hide from you. :-) Since you know who I am and where I am, why don't you and Boogie come for a visit. Samantha can come too. Just leave your handcuffs and weapons at home. We can go out to eat and settle our differences over a nice Asian meal at a local restaurant. You'll discover that ole Nag in person is not Satan incarnate but just a rather ordinary guy who's a little shy but really quite personable.

"You violated intellecual trademark laws, you violated this girls personal privacy."

You're full of bull manure.

Nevertheless, tat tvam asi.

Coonhound said...

Well know this,

I do not think you are a Budhist Baboon, or a Agnostic Android, or an Atheist Ape.

But I am sort of fond of "mystic monkey"

Can I keep that one just for fun? Please?

Steve said...

"When I'm angry or PO'ed I don't typically play around about things. I guess I assumed you would have picked up on that by now. (Oops, my bad)"

Let's just say that I thought you might have been showing a new side of yourself--a maliciously playful one. :-)

Steve said...

You can keep them all, Coonhound. :-)

Anonymous said...

That's right Nagarjuna. We know you hacked Teresa's daughter's server. We have some of the logs from your little shit parade. Maybe it is enough, and maybe it is not. But this I know, you and your flunkies are an assholes. You are finished. This little girl worked so hard to get where she is and look what you do. This is you Nagarjuna, through and through. YOu have a psychlogical problem. This dirty deed was certainly not intelligent!

You defend pedophiles from outlandish HATEFUL WORDS, but you use the same DISGUSTING HATEFUL WORDS against other people that merely say words to you. Pedophiles do not deserve hateful words? But others who offend you do? WHAT kind of sense does that make. Shit, look who I am asking. YOu are a psychopath!!!! JeffSees is right, there is something very wrong with you. You didn't stop with the words, your control habits are so bad, you went on the physical attack. You are nothing but another Garrido. And you two little followers, don't bet you will not be looked at as conspirators. I hope we have enough in the logs, to bust your asses. But come on MO FO, I'm open, I'm not on the server anymore, come hack me you freak.... come on, I dare ya. Yes, we have also reported this to the authorities. You can run and you can hide, but eventually they will catch up with you, whether it is for this, or something else. We do know who you really are and where you are. You violated intellecual trademark laws, you violated this girls personal privacy. If anything, anything at all goes missing, or there is any sort of identify fraud, we know where you are you little chicken shit. You will be sitting next to your idle Garrido.

JeffSees, please feel free to copy and paste this statement as many times as possible too. I didn't understand why you were doing it until today, but it certainly makes sense. I am glad he didn't get into your computer too.

Anonymous said...

Watchout everyone, Nagarajuna is hacking computers. He didn't get mine, but he got into some confidential business docs with personal information of a young girl Those docs have confidential information and it is a Federal Crime.

Nagarjuna said:

"Vladb, .. Now you say I'm a "pedophile lover" and, therefore, "worse than the actual pedophile,"

I would be obligated to love or, at least try to love, Garrido

All you've done is continue to babble on about how you'd like to rape or see others rape and torture this sick man for the rest of his life for his sick deeds and then see him agonize in hell forever and ever for them.

it seems to me that our species is doomed by its inability to rise above its baser emotions and see things clearly. In this case, this means seeing that it is wrong to hate and publicly advocate the rape and torture of a human being for his sick acts."

August 29, 2009 9:21 AM

Then Nagarjuna said:

And while you're at it, kiss my big sweaty ass while I unleash monstrous flatulence in your face. :-)

October 17, 2009 5:12 PM

Then Nagarjuna said:

if we overreact to it the way you describe and call it such an awful, disgustingly repulsive, monstrous thing that destroys children's lives, how does it REALLY help

October 18, 2009 9:31 AM

Then Nagarjuna said:

Let me spread my cheeks for you, Boogie, "Jeff," Samantha, and Freak. Move in close and prepare to inhale deeply. :-)

October 18, 2009 10:11 AM

Then Nagarjuna said:

Don't you know that I am God? :-)

Steve said...

But I admit that I liked "mystic monkey" the best, even if it was a little degrading to be called a mere monkey instead of an ape. :-)

Steve said...

"That's right Nagarjuna. We know you hacked Teresa's daughter's server. We have some of the logs from your little shit parade. "

Now you're outright lying. And no longer just about your identity but about something much more important. You're lying about having evidence of me committing a crime that I did not commit. I'm disappointed in even you that you've stooped THAT low.

"YOu have a psychlogical problem. This dirty deed was certainly not intelligent!"

I'm afraid YOU are the one with the psychological problem. You should get to a therapist pronto. Tell him or her the Nag sent you.

You defend pedophiles from outlandish HATEFUL WORDS, but you use the same DISGUSTING HATEFUL WORDS against other people that merely say words to you.

Ridiculous! Someone has falsely accused me many times of being a pedophile and said many other hateful things to and about me, and you have supported her. So, I jokingly told you to let me fart in your faces and later apologized for it. That is NOTHING like saying you want to see another human being raped and tortured to death before he burns forever in hell. Believe me, my farts are not THAT bad. :-) And I'm glad to see you admit that the "hateful words" people expressed here toward the Garridos WERE "outlandish."

"You didn't stop with the words, your control habits are so bad, you went on the physical attack."

Blatant nonsense. I never physically attacked or seriously threatened to physically attack anyone. If you believe otherwise, you are delusional.

"You are nothing but another Garrido."

You sound nuttier by the minute.

"Yes, we have also reported this to the authorities."

Good. Report me till the proverbial cows come home for something I didn't do, and the "authorities" will eventually throw you in jail or the nuthouse for it.

"We do know who you really are and where you are."

Wow, I'm impressed, given how hard I've tried to hide from you. :-) Since you know who I am and where I am, why don't you and Boogie come for a visit. Samantha can come too. Just leave your handcuffs and weapons at home. We can go out to eat and settle our differences over a nice Asian meal at a local restaurant. You'll discover that ole Nag in person is not Satan incarnate but just a rather ordinary guy who's a little shy but really quite personable.

"You violated intellecual trademark laws, you violated this girls personal privacy."

You're full of bull manure.

Nevertheless, tat tvam asi.

Steve said...

For the record, here are the facts and not the falsehoods if not lies uttered by my detractors:

"Watchout everyone, Nagarajuna is hacking computers. He didn't get mine, but he got into some confidential business docs with personal information of a young girl Those docs have confidential information and it is a Federal Crime."

This is false if not an outright lie. I have never hacked a computer and wouldn't even know how to begin.

"Vladb, .. Now you say I'm a "pedophile lover" and, therefore, "worse than the actual pedophile,"

I would be obligated to love or, at least try to love, Garrido"

Vlabd DID accuse me of being a "pedophile lover." He was wrong. What I DID say is that IF I were Christian, which I am not, I would be obligated to love or at least try to love everyone as a fellow child of God, unlike the self-professed Christians hypocritically venting hateful fantasies of Garrido's earthly and posthumous torture.

"All you've done is continue to babble on about how you'd like to rape or see others rape and torture this sick man for the rest of his life for his sick deeds and then see him agonize in hell forever and ever for them.

I DID say this. This IS what was going on at the time I said it.

"it seems to me that our species is doomed by its inability to rise above its baser emotions and see things clearly. In this case, this means seeing that it is wrong to hate and publicly advocate the rape and torture of a human being for his sick acts."

I DID say this, and I stand by it.

"Then Nagarjuna said:

And while you're at it, kiss my big sweaty ass while I unleash monstrous flatulence in your face. :-)"

I jokingly said it, apologized for it, and now retract it.

"Then Nagarjuna said:

if we overreact to it the way you describe and call it such an awful, disgustingly repulsive, monstrous thing that destroys children's lives, how does it REALLY help"

I said it and meant it. Speaking of child abuse in the worst of terms may very well cause the victim to needlessly see it in the worst of terms.

"Then Nagarjuna said:

Let me spread my cheeks for you, Boogie, "Jeff," Samantha, and Freak. Move in close and prepare to inhale deeply. :-)"

I jokingly said it, apologized for it, and now retract it.

"Then Nagarjuna said:

Don't you know that I am God? :-)"

According to many mystics the world over, we ARE or our essence IS the Ultimate Reality or "God." "Tat tvam asi" is the supreme Upanishadic formulation of this principle.

Anonymous said...

KAEL has left a new comment on the post "Something Brand New Has Taken Place!":

wish ya good luck and have a great night denise, please dont call me and write me anymore,be happy good bye


Brenda, looks like Denise's Boyfriend.

Coonhound said...

Lol, that's what I'm talking about!

Oh, you crack me up!

Anonymous said...

Watchout everyone, Nagarajuna is hacking computers. He didn't get mine, but he got into some confidential business docs with personal information of a young girl Those docs have confidential information and it is a Federal Crime.

Nagarjuna said:

"Vladb, .. Now you say I'm a "pedophile lover" and, therefore, "worse than the actual pedophile,"

I would be obligated to love or, at least try to love, Garrido

All you've done is continue to babble on about how you'd like to rape or see others rape and torture this sick man for the rest of his life for his sick deeds and then see him agonize in hell forever and ever for them.

it seems to me that our species is doomed by its inability to rise above its baser emotions and see things clearly. In this case, this means seeing that it is wrong to hate and publicly advocate the rape and torture of a human being for his sick acts."

August 29, 2009 9:21 AM

Then Nagarjuna said:

And while you're at it, kiss my big sweaty ass while I unleash monstrous flatulence in your face. :-)

October 17, 2009 5:12 PM

Then Nagarjuna said:

if we overreact to it the way you describe and call it such an awful, disgustingly repulsive, monstrous thing that destroys children's lives, how does it REALLY help

October 18, 2009 9:31 AM

Then Nagarjuna said:

Let me spread my cheeks for you, Boogie, "Jeff," Samantha, and Freak. Move in close and prepare to inhale deeply. :-)

October 18, 2009 10:11 AM

Then Nagarjuna said:

Don't you know that I am God? :-)

Anonymous said...

Watchout everyone, Nagarajuna is hacking computers. He didn't get mine, but he got into some confidential business docs with personal information of a young girl Those docs have confidential information and it is a Federal Crime.

Nagarjuna said:

"Vladb, .. Now you say I'm a "pedophile lover" and, therefore, "worse than the actual pedophile,"

I would be obligated to love or, at least try to love, Garrido

All you've done is continue to babble on about how you'd like to rape or see others rape and torture this sick man for the rest of his life for his sick deeds and then see him agonize in hell forever and ever for them.

it seems to me that our species is doomed by its inability to rise above its baser emotions and see things clearly. In this case, this means seeing that it is wrong to hate and publicly advocate the rape and torture of a human being for his sick acts."

August 29, 2009 9:21 AM

Then Nagarjuna said:

And while you're at it, kiss my big sweaty ass while I unleash monstrous flatulence in your face. :-)

October 17, 2009 5:12 PM

Then Nagarjuna said:

if we overreact to it the way you describe and call it such an awful, disgustingly repulsive, monstrous thing that destroys children's lives, how does it REALLY help

October 18, 2009 9:31 AM

Then Nagarjuna said:

Let me spread my cheeks for you, Boogie, "Jeff," Samantha, and Freak. Move in close and prepare to inhale deeply. :-)

October 18, 2009 10:11 AM

Then Nagarjuna said:

Don't you know that I am God? :-)

Coonhound said...

Nag, for the record my last post was to you regarding mystic monkey and the other silly names.

(JackassSees is really an *ss!)

Steve said...
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Steve said...

"Jeff," that brown sheen on your face from all the splashback is growing more and more unsightly. :-)

Steve said...

"JackassSees is really an *ss!"

Coonhound, I don't know what "Jeff" is, although I certainly have my suspicions. :-) It's funny how "he" supposedly came here to magnanimously steer Nag straight, and now that Nag has repented and turned over a new leaf, "Jeff" keeps foolishly posting the same falsehoods and misrepresentations without even displaying enough intelligence or creativity to change the wording to reflect the solid rebuttals they've received.

Again, the old Nag must have given "him" such a shellacking earlier, that "he's" too afraid to dialogue with the new Nag and put the past behind "him."

Now, watch "him" repost that nonsense again because "he's" incapable of anything better. Watch now...here it comes...if it hasn't come already. :-)

Steve said...

Come on, "Jeff," do it again. Or, as we used to say on CB radio, "Jump." :-)

Jump, "Jeff," jump. :-)

Coonhound said...

Nag,

How's your tooth feeling?

I didn't undertsand what you meant earlier about your concern for the antibiotics.???

denise said...

Brenda, and anyone who might be interested in knowing:

Kael, is my beautiful, caring, loving, handsome, awesome and wonderful husband-to-be, and my kids' Daddy. Well, hopefully, he will one day be my husband. I love him dearly. Kael is my life! He will always be Daddy for my children, no matter what happens in our future.

Coonhound said...

Hi denise,

Thanks for sharing, that was nice to know:)

denise said...

Yes. Kael is my boyfriend. And Yes, he is still my boyfriend. We are very much in love. If there was any doubt about him loving me, that comment would have never been posted. Nor would it have been removed.

What happened last night was that I had written here that I had company, so I wouldnt be able to be here in the blog with you guys. I also threw in the part that the man had said it isnt important to say all that, just get off of the computer and go, because I thought it was funny that he didnt understand that you guys are a major part of every one of my evenings.

Well, the man that was at my home is a person that is going to help me move some things out of my house. As you all know, I am trying to get my situation in such a way that I can move to Peru.

Well, my fiance read the comment I made about this man, and he misunderstood it. He thought that this was a man that I was going to go out with. He got very upset, and left the comment. I spoke with him on the telephone later that night, and he informed me of the comment in the blog, as I knew nothing of it yet.

Well, anyhow, after I explained to my fiance exactly what I meant by my comment and exactly who my company was, he understood, and he deleted the comment immediately.

I think all of the crying that I was doing when I read his comment maybe helped him to delete it more rapidly also. Because you cannot imagine how those words made me feel. They killed me inside.

I LOVE KAEL WITH ALL OF MY HEART! I WILL ALWAYS LOVE KAEL, AND SO WILL MY CHILDREN. I ALSO BELIEVE THAT KAEL LOVES ME AND MY CHILDREN WITH ALL OF HIS LIFE.

denise said...

Te Amo, Kael! Tu eres mi vida!

Steve said...

"How's your tooth feeling?"

It's feeling less painful now, and it's bleeding less and oozing less puss. Sounds pleasant, doesn't it? :-)

"I didn't undertsand what you meant earlier about your concern for the antibiotics.???"

I'm taking 300 mg of Clindamycin 3X a day to clean up the infection that prompted the extraction. From one I understand, this is one of the most potent antibiotics in the medical arsenal, and it has a nasty tendency to wipe out most intestinal bacteria, including the good kinds, and leave certain not-so-good kinds behind without any opposition. This can allow them to multiply wildly and take control and wreak havoc on the alimentary system resulting in chronic diarrhea sometimes leading to long term colitis and even life threatening GI disorders.

I've suffered no such effects this early on, but sometimes these problems don't arise until even after the antibiotic has been discontinued.

In short, it's not nice to fool with Mother Nature in the gut unless it's absolutely necessary. I guess it was necessary in my case, because I certainly don't want to suffer the dangerous effects of a deep seated infection in my jaw and beyond, but I also don't want serious GI problems either. And I'm concerned about it.

Coonhound said...

Ok, I understand now. Eat yogurt, my friend. It helps to replenish the "good" bacteria.

Coonhound said...

Denise,

Kudos! I'm so happy that all is well with your Peruvian Prince!

:)

Steve said...

"Eat yogurt, my friend. It helps to replenish the "good" bacteria."

I've heard that for years, especially about the so-called "probiotic" varieties. And there are also probiotic capsules one can take. They're laced with the "good" bacteria. Their efficacy is not solidly substantiated by medical research, but I went ahead and bought a bottle of them last night anyway and began taking them this morning. I'll also be eating lots of cottage cheese and yogurt.

Steve said...

"Peruvian prince" is a nice touch, Coonhound. I hope everything works out well. I could interject a mildly cautionary note, but I suspect that it would fall on deaf or resistantly hostile ears, so I'll keep my mouth shut about that. :-)

Denise, does your PP monitor this blog regularly? If so, what's his impression of what he's seen here? :-)

Coonhound said...

"Resistantly hostile ears"

"Pfft" as denise would say.

Steve said...

Well, let's leave out the "hostile" part and just say "resistant" then. :-)

Coonhound said...

Awww, our tender seedling has sprout a new root.

:)

Steve said...

Or maybe the "seedling" is just a little less "tender" this afternoon. :-)

Anonymous said...

Hello, everyone! Nice to see the blog alive and kicking.

As a stickler, I must point out a post that was addressed to me but was no doubt meant for Coonhound:

"No problem, Goblinbee. The way I see it, I made myself react the way I did. Even if you hadn't been "playing," I could have taken it all in better stride." (Nagarjuna)

I was nowhere near the action on this, having been gone all day.

Steve said...

"As a stickler, I must point out a post that was addressed to me but was no doubt meant for Coonhound"

Thank you for pointing that out, Goblinbee. As I think I've said before, I often confuse you and Coonhound in my mind, although I'm not sure why, and this strange confusion sometimes leaks out into my comments. :-)

Steve said...

I'm wondering why Coonhound didn't "playfully" correct me at the time. :-)

Steve said...

I wonder if Brenda ever read my reply to her criticism this morning, or if she simply "hit and ran." And if she did read it, I wonder why she didn't reply with some kind of acknowledgment. Perhaps that's too much of a courtesy to expect from some people, unfortunately.

Coonhound said...

I saw no need in further fussing with our most tender seedling.

I want him to prosper and grow:)

Coonhound said...

"Hit and ran"

Hah!

I guess so, lol.

denise said...

Thank you everyone for your caring concern and wishes for me and my Peruvian Prince, as Coonhound says. He is more than a Prince, he is My King.

Nagarjuna, I do not know how often Kael observes the blog. And as far as what he thinks, I have to say that the blog has very much English in it. lol And some of the conversations, as we have already seen, are hard for Native English speakers to understand.

I told him of the blog when I first found it, and he did come here with me to look at it. He has stated that it is more english than he cares to try to decipher. lol Not to mention all of the big words that Nagarjuna uses, that none of us have ever seen before. loool

Steve said...

"I saw no need in further fussing with our most tender seedling."

But wasn't this before you knew how "tender" your "seedling" was at the time? :-)

denise said...

Well, I can honestly tell you what he thought about the blog last night. It was not a good thought, I can assure you.

Coonhound said...

Well, let's just say that it was clearly obvious that you were a little unproportionately bent out of shape.

And I did not want to break you.

Lol, lol, lol

Siwl:)

denise said...

Hello Coonhound, Goblinbee and Nagarjuna, by the way.

I hope youre feeling better soon.

And I noticed that I cannot get away from feuding siblings. I turn my back for one night, and my brother and sister get into it here in the blog.

Coonhound said...

Denise,

Was it my facetious comments to nag that the Peruvian King did not like, such as...

Buddhist baboon, atheist ape and so on.

????

MadOne said...

An advantage of being a common person - by a "common person", I mean someone who is not a judge, prosecutor, or police officer - is that the common person has a right to be angry about perpetrators of certain crimes, for example, those hurting defenseless children or elderly. A judge can impose a death sentence but has no right to express his/her anger towards the accused.
As I might have mentioned before, I am not a fan of medieval justice or some kind of holy inquisition. However, in the old times, the severity of punishment was commensurate with brutality of the crime. And I find that fair.

denise said...

Goblinbee,

I think I would love to sit in on an AA meeting. And you have inspired me to inquire about our local meetings, to see if that will be possible for me to go as an onlooker.

The one thing about that is, this is a very small town. I am not so sure that later on, word wouldnt get out that I was not at the meetings as an Onlooker only.

Coonhound said...

Oh yes madone, I do believe you said something about PG being split in two.

I think that was you.

denise said...

You know, Coonhound, it just may well be your fault, all of the trouble you started last night. lol But just what are you trying to say, Coonhound? lol Gosh!!

Of course he did not take your name calling of another, personally. looool
My Kael is none of those things. lol

My nickname for my beautiful and precious grandson is Changuito, though. lol That means little monkey. lol But I doubt that even he would be offended.

denise said...

My Peruvian King is not Buddhist, nor is he atheist. lol He is Catholic. And he doesnt have a tail. lol

denise said...

I am somewhat, okay, truth be told, I am very angry with my sons right now. My brother is in town right now. So they asked me if they take the trash out, can they go stay at their uncles house this weekend, as tomorrow is no school.

I said yes. And guess what. As shocking as it is, the trash did not get taken out, but they are off with their uncle for the weekend.

denise said...

This happens to me every time. lol

Every night when I get a free moment, I come to the blog and read a steady conversation between everyone going on for hours.

But as soon as I start commenting, I am the only one here. :(

Is this just a coincidence? Or what. lol Tell me the truth, guys. lol

Coonhound said...

That's good to know denise, lol..

That he doesn't have a tail! Lol.

Coonhound said...

I'm here denise.

denise said...

Hello Coonhound.

How was your day?

Anonymous said...

Hi Denise!

Everyone said this at the end of the meeting: "What happens at AA, stays at AA." There is supposed to be strict confidentiality, and, in a perfect world, it would be so.

Coonhound said...

Ahhhh, battle of the choirs.

Fun fun fun

denise said...

Coonhound, what is battle of the choirs?

Goblinbee, Hello! I do not even know if we have AA meetings here. I think they have different programs instead. If you need to go to AA meetings, you probably have to drive 40 miles to the main town with the mall here.

And here it is, almost 8:00, and I guess I will never hear from the Royalty again. :( I feel so sad now.

Coonhound said...

My day was good denise.

Hi Goblinbee.

MadOne said...

You are right, Coonhound - that's what I said. I would add that the saw in the museum and the description of its use looked so real I nearly threw up the delicious Czech cuisine I ate before :)) - it had to be a pretty powerful deterrent for the most heinous criminals.
If you looked at my later post, though, you would see I haven't lost my faith in the modern justice - I just find it very hard to seat a jury panel for Garrido trial because so many people hate him. However... maybe, the investigators will actually link some dead bodies to Garrido while the lawyers are questioning the prospective jurors.

denise said...

Yeah, I am depressed now. I think I will go ahead and get off of the computer for tonight. :(

Have a blessed night, love you guys. Take care and God bless. peace

Coonhound said...

Battle of choirs...

Kids not taking out the garbage.

Coonhound said...

MadOne,

Maybe they will, but general population is fine with me.

Coonhound said...

Hah, denise.

Battle of CHORES!

Coonhound said...

MadOne,

I do believe that he will get a fair trial. Mainly bc I think most people take jury duty very seriously.

But that's just my opinion.

Anonymous said...

Hi Coonhound!

Take care, Denise.

Steve said...

"However, in the old times, the severity of punishment was commensurate with brutality of the crime. And I find that fair."

Why? And what, then, would be the "fair" way to "punish" Garrido in view of the fact that his captives are now free and apparently doing quite well?

Steve said...

"Maybe they will, but general population is fine with me."

Would it be "fine" with your Lord? Would he be fine with it being fine with you?

Coonhound said...

Nag,

I don't believe that "my Lord" has an issue with my preference towards the general population.

Steve said...

"I don't believe that "my Lord" has an issue with my preference towards the general population."

You REALLY think your Lord would have no "issue" with you wanting Garrido placed in a situation where you know he would be treated with abject brutality and almost certainly murdered?

Coonhound said...

Nagarjuna,

Perhaps you taking up the role of "PG Defender" is a bit of a load to carry for such a young tender seedling, such as yourself.

:)

Coonhound said...

nag, how do you know what will happen to him in prison?

Are you a sooth-sayer, too?

Coonhound said...

Nagarjuna,

The USA has one of the most humane prison systems in the world, if not THE most humane.

Wouldn't you agree?

Also, the whole notion of him being tortured and killed is a bit dramatic. Perhaps some minds are filled with a bit too much of TV?

Steve said...

Coonhound, perhaps your taking up the role of defending Garrido's brutalization and murder is a "bit of a load" for a Christian to carry. :-)

Steve said...

"Also, the whole notion of him being tortured and killed is a bit dramatic. Perhaps some minds are filled with a bit too much of TV?"

Not too much, Coonhound, but enough to have, perhaps, a better understanding of the dangers of "humane" American prisons for people like Garrido. And perhaps you'd care to explain why if being in the general population is not a serious threat to sex offenders, they're almost invariably placed in protective custody.

Come on, Coonhound, don't play games with me and, perhaps, with yourself.

Anonymous said...

Watchout everyone, Nagarajuna is hacking computers. He didn't get mine, but he got into some confidential business docs with personal information of a young girl Those docs have confidential information and it is a Federal Crime.

Nagarjuna said:

"Vladb, .. Now you say I'm a "pedophile lover" and, therefore, "worse than the actual pedophile,"

I would be obligated to love or, at least try to love, Garrido

All you've done is continue to babble on about how you'd like to rape or see others rape and torture this sick man for the rest of his life for his sick deeds and then see him agonize in hell forever and ever for them.

it seems to me that our species is doomed by its inability to rise above its baser emotions and see things clearly. In this case, this means seeing that it is wrong to hate and publicly advocate the rape and torture of a human being for his sick acts."

August 29, 2009 9:21 AM

Then Nagarjuna said:

And while you're at it, kiss my big sweaty ass while I unleash monstrous flatulence in your face. :-)

October 17, 2009 5:12 PM

Then Nagarjuna said:

if we overreact to it the way you describe and call it such an awful, disgustingly repulsive, monstrous thing that destroys children's lives, how does it REALLY help

October 18, 2009 9:31 AM

Then Nagarjuna said:

Let me spread my cheeks for you, Boogie, "Jeff," Samantha, and Freak. Move in close and prepare to inhale deeply. :-)

October 18, 2009 10:11 AM

Then Nagarjuna said:

Don't you know that I am God? :-)

Anonymous said...

That's right Nagarjuna. We know you hacked Teresa's daughter's server. We have some of the logs from your little shit parade. Maybe it is enough, and maybe it is not. But this I know, you and your flunkies are an assholes. You are finished. This little girl worked so hard to get where she is and look what you do. This is you Nagarjuna, through and through. YOu have a psychlogical problem. This dirty deed was certainly not intelligent!

You defend pedophiles from outlandish HATEFUL WORDS, but you use the same DISGUSTING HATEFUL WORDS against other people that merely say words to you. Pedophiles do not deserve hateful words? But others who offend you do? WHAT kind of sense does that make. Shit, look who I am asking. YOu are a psychopath!!!! JeffSees is right, there is something very wrong with you. You didn't stop with the words, your control habits are so bad, you went on the physical attack. You are nothing but another Garrido. And you two little followers, don't bet you will not be looked at as conspirators. I hope we have enough in the logs, to bust your asses. But come on MO FO, I'm open, I'm not on the server anymore, come hack me you freak.... come on, I dare ya. Yes, we have also reported this to the authorities. You can run and you can hide, but eventually they will catch up with you, whether it is for this, or something else. We do know who you really are and where you are. You violated intellecual trademark laws, you violated this girls personal privacy. If anything, anything at all goes missing, or there is any sort of identify fraud, we know where you are you little chicken shit. You will be sitting next to your idle Garrido.

JeffSees, please feel free to copy and paste this statement as many times as possible too. I didn't understand why you were doing it until today, but it certainly makes sense. I am glad he didn't get into your computer too.

Steve said...

For the record, here are the facts and not the falsehoods if not lies uttered by my detractors:

"Watchout everyone, Nagarajuna is hacking computers. He didn't get mine, but he got into some confidential business docs with personal information of a young girl Those docs have confidential information and it is a Federal Crime."

This is false if not an outright lie. I have never hacked a computer and wouldn't even know how to begin.

"Vladb, .. Now you say I'm a "pedophile lover" and, therefore, "worse than the actual pedophile,"

I would be obligated to love or, at least try to love, Garrido"

Vlabd DID accuse me of being a "pedophile lover." He was wrong. What I DID say is that IF I were Christian, which I am not, I would be obligated to love or at least try to love everyone as a fellow child of God, unlike the self-professed Christians hypocritically venting hateful fantasies of Garrido's earthly and posthumous torture.

"All you've done is continue to babble on about how you'd like to rape or see others rape and torture this sick man for the rest of his life for his sick deeds and then see him agonize in hell forever and ever for them.

I DID say this. This IS what was going on at the time I said it.

"it seems to me that our species is doomed by its inability to rise above its baser emotions and see things clearly. In this case, this means seeing that it is wrong to hate and publicly advocate the rape and torture of a human being for his sick acts."

I DID say this, and I stand by it.

"Then Nagarjuna said:

And while you're at it, kiss my big sweaty ass while I unleash monstrous flatulence in your face. :-)"

I jokingly said it, apologized for it, and now retract it.

"Then Nagarjuna said:

if we overreact to it the way you describe and call it such an awful, disgustingly repulsive, monstrous thing that destroys children's lives, how does it REALLY help"

I said it and meant it. Speaking of child abuse in the worst of terms may very well cause the victim to needlessly see it in the worst of terms.

"Then Nagarjuna said:

Let me spread my cheeks for you, Boogie, "Jeff," Samantha, and Freak. Move in close and prepare to inhale deeply. :-)"

I jokingly said it, apologized for it, and now retract it.

"Then Nagarjuna said:

Don't you know that I am God? :-)"

According to many mystics the world over, we ARE or our essence IS the Ultimate Reality or "God." "Tat tvam asi" is the supreme Upanishadic formulation of this principle.

Steve said...

"JackassSees is really an *ss!"

Coonhound, I don't know what "Jeff" is, although I certainly have my suspicions. :-) It's funny how "he" supposedly came here to magnanimously steer Nag straight, and now that Nag has repented and turned over a new leaf, "Jeff" keeps foolishly posting the same falsehoods and misrepresentations without even displaying enough intelligence or creativity to change the wording to reflect the solid rebuttals they've received.

Again, the old Nag must have given "him" such a shellacking earlier, that "he's" too afraid to dialogue with the new Nag and put the past behind "him."

Now, watch "him" repost that nonsense again because "he's" incapable of anything better. Watch now...here it comes...if it hasn't come already. :-)

Steve said...

"That's right Nagarjuna. We know you hacked Teresa's daughter's server. We have some of the logs from your little shit parade. "

Now you're outright lying. And no longer just about your identity but about something much more important. You're lying about having evidence of me committing a crime that I did not commit. I'm disappointed in even you that you've stooped THAT low.

"YOu have a psychlogical problem. This dirty deed was certainly not intelligent!"

I'm afraid YOU are the one with the psychological problem. You should get to a therapist pronto. Tell him or her the Nag sent you.

You defend pedophiles from outlandish HATEFUL WORDS, but you use the same DISGUSTING HATEFUL WORDS against other people that merely say words to you.

Ridiculous! Someone has falsely accused me many times of being a pedophile and said many other hateful things to and about me, and you have supported her. So, I jokingly told you to let me fart in your faces and later apologized for it. That is NOTHING like saying you want to see another human being raped and tortured to death before he burns forever in hell. Believe me, my farts are not THAT bad. :-) And I'm glad to see you admit that the "hateful words" people expressed here toward the Garridos WERE "outlandish."

"You didn't stop with the words, your control habits are so bad, you went on the physical attack."

Blatant nonsense. I never physically attacked or seriously threatened to physically attack anyone. If you believe otherwise, you are delusional.

"You are nothing but another Garrido."

You sound nuttier by the minute.

"Yes, we have also reported this to the authorities."

Good. Report me till the proverbial cows come home for something I didn't do, and the "authorities" will eventually throw you in jail or the nuthouse for it.

"We do know who you really are and where you are."

Wow, I'm impressed, given how hard I've tried to hide from you. :-) Since you know who I am and where I am, why don't you and Boogie come for a visit. Samantha can come too. Just leave your handcuffs and weapons at home. We can go out to eat and settle our differences over a nice Asian meal at a local restaurant. You'll discover that ole Nag in person is not Satan incarnate but just a rather ordinary guy who's a little shy but really quite personable.

"You violated intellecual trademark laws, you violated this girls personal privacy."

You're full of bull manure.

Nevertheless, tat tvam asi.

Steve said...

"Jeff," that brown sheen on your face from all the splashback is growing more and more unsightly. :-)

Steve said...

Come on, "Jeff," do it again. Or, as we used to say on CB radio, "Jump." :-)

Jump, "Jeff," jump. :-)

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Steve said...

"The Obama administration’s moves to rein in executive pay sparked criticism on Wall Street, as lenders such as Bank of America Corp. said the measures may hurt the very companies the U.S. is intent on saving.

“People want to work here but they want to be paid fairly,” said Scott Silvestri, a spokesman for Bank of America, the recipient of $45 billion of bailout funds. Rivals are “identifying our top performers and using pay concerns to recruit them away for fair-market compensation,” he said."

"Paid fairly?"! "Fair market compensation?"! You Garrido haters want to talk about "scum of the earth"? I say put these real-life Gordon Gekkos in the same class. They may rape and rob us "legally," but they still rape and rob us.

Anonymous said...

That's right Nagarjuna. We know you hacked Teresa's daughter's server. We have some of the logs from your little shit parade. Maybe it is enough, and maybe it is not. But this I know, you and your flunkies are an assholes. You are finished. This little girl worked so hard to get where she is and look what you do. This is you Nagarjuna, through and through. YOu have a psychlogical problem. This dirty deed was certainly not intelligent!

You defend pedophiles from outlandish HATEFUL WORDS, but you use the same DISGUSTING HATEFUL WORDS against other people that merely say words to you. Pedophiles do not deserve hateful words? But others who offend you do? WHAT kind of sense does that make. Shit, look who I am asking. YOu are a psychopath!!!! JeffSees is right, there is something very wrong with you. You didn't stop with the words, your control habits are so bad, you went on the physical attack. You are nothing but another Garrido. And you two little followers, don't bet you will not be looked at as conspirators. I hope we have enough in the logs, to bust your asses. But come on MO FO, I'm open, I'm not on the server anymore, come hack me you freak.... come on, I dare ya. Yes, we have also reported this to the authorities. You can run and you can hide, but eventually they will catch up with you, whether it is for this, or something else. We do know who you really are and where you are. You violated intellecual trademark laws, you violated this girls personal privacy. If anything, anything at all goes missing, or there is any sort of identify fraud, we know where you are you little chicken shit. You will be sitting next to your idle Garrido.

JeffSees, please feel free to copy and paste this statement as many times as possible too. I didn't understand why you were doing it until today, but it certainly makes sense. I am glad he didn't get into your computer too.

Anonymous said...

Watchout everyone, Nagarajuna is hacking computers. He didn't get mine, but he got into some confidential business docs with personal information of a young girl Those docs have confidential information and it is a Federal Crime.

Nagarjuna said:

"Vladb, .. Now you say I'm a "pedophile lover" and, therefore, "worse than the actual pedophile,"

I would be obligated to love or, at least try to love, Garrido

All you've done is continue to babble on about how you'd like to rape or see others rape and torture this sick man for the rest of his life for his sick deeds and then see him agonize in hell forever and ever for them.

it seems to me that our species is doomed by its inability to rise above its baser emotions and see things clearly. In this case, this means seeing that it is wrong to hate and publicly advocate the rape and torture of a human being for his sick acts."

August 29, 2009 9:21 AM

Then Nagarjuna said:

And while you're at it, kiss my big sweaty ass while I unleash monstrous flatulence in your face. :-)

October 17, 2009 5:12 PM

Then Nagarjuna said:

if we overreact to it the way you describe and call it such an awful, disgustingly repulsive, monstrous thing that destroys children's lives, how does it REALLY help

October 18, 2009 9:31 AM

Then Nagarjuna said:

Let me spread my cheeks for you, Boogie, "Jeff," Samantha, and Freak. Move in close and prepare to inhale deeply. :-)

October 18, 2009 10:11 AM

Then Nagarjuna said:

Don't you know that I am God? :-)

Steve said...

"Jeff's" brown sheen is turning into a hard, brown mask. :-)

Anonymous said...

Nagarjuna. U seem to be the one with the brown nose. It just takes a simple review of your and Denises posts to see that you were hacking. We have stealer amiga, we have you begging JeffSees to post 10 times so you can have time to hack into his computer, we have all your cocky comments. We have you posting links trying to get people to go places so you can get their IP. We have you posting that you wrote new articles so people will go to your website so you you can get their IPs. The articles are very stupid by the way. You are not very bright writing the way you do. People have to ask themselves what planet you are on to write in the fashion you do much less find it interesting.

Face it, you are a hacker. You are a control freak, and nobody but losers hang around to talk to you. You lost the ear of anyone respectable long ago.

I can read, I can tell you will argue instead of looking at yourself, but you truly are one weird dude!

Anonymous said...

"They may rape and rob us "legally," but they still rape and rob us." (Nagarjuna)

I've always abhorred when the word rape is used to mean anything but what it actually means. It waters down the experience and makes it possible for people to not take the idea of rape seriously.

Coonhound said...

Nagarjuna,

Protective custody?

does that mean a more secure part of the prison where he would be not as accessible to other inmates?

Then that's fine with me, too, IF that is what the court determines as "Just". I have Faith in our legal system, nag.

I want him to have consequences. And I have never specified torture, my friend, nor would I. Rather PG seems to know a good bit about TORTURE!

Unlike you, I do not "feel sorry" for this man and I do not "assume" that he's mentally incompetant.

Once he's found GUITLY, why would he deserve "special treatment" above and beyond other prisoners? As far as I'm concerned, that's a decision for after the trial based on the testimony of REAL professionals. Unlike you, I am NOT getting prematurely "WORKED UP" concerning his fate.

His noterioty is self-induced, self-made. The people of CA or of the USA, or of the world did not do this, HE DID.

The problem here is not that our society is cruel and NOT compassionate, rather PG IS cruel and not compassionate.

I'm not "playing games" regarding this situation.I am very serious on this subject.

I'm realistic and practical, YOU are NOT.

You have suggested "Killing" the man. As a Christian I do struggle with the death penalty in general and can't seem to be at rest either way, for or against it. Therfore I generally don't speak up concerning it.

But I am very much a supporter of individual accountability here on this earth; and, as a christian, each person's spiritual being is between that person and whomever they believe "the Lord" to be.

And YOU are fooling yourself when you precariously speculate that "they are doing well" or however you worded it.

Newsflash! Yes, its been reported as such to the public; BUT in consideration of the circumstances in which they had NO CHoice but to endure, thanks to PG/NG. And

I do believe that the family would like such matters, such as the specifics concerning the welfare of the victims, kept PRIVATE at this point.

I find some of your "arguements" to be very outlandish and insensitive to the REAL victims here, Nagarjuna.

Steve said...

"I've always abhorred when the word rape is used to mean anything but what it actually means. It waters down the experience and makes it possible for people to not take the idea of rape seriously."

I understand your point, Goblinbee, but it's difficult for me to see what these Gordon Gekkos do as anything other than financial rape of the people. Indeed, from my perspective, applying the word to these Wall Street and other financial sector as*holes not only doesn't "water down" the term but augments its severity when applied to cases of literal rape.

Both the literal and figurative forms of rape are despicable, and their perpetrators ought to be regarded and treated accordingly.

Coonhound said...

GoblinBee,

I agree with your post. I was so taken back with Nag's last comment that I questioned if it was "really" nag. Anyway, I was VERY disappointed when I clicked on the profile and found that it "REALLY" was from Nag.

Steve said...

"Nagarjuna. U seem to be the one with the brown nose. It just takes a simple review of your and Denises posts to see that you were hacking."

Again, you are delusional. I don't know the first thing about hacking, have never had any desire to learn or do it, and I have never done it. You have not one shred of credible evidence that indicates otherwise because no such evidence exists. How could it when I've never done it? Besides, I didn't say "Jeff" has a "brown nose." I said "he" has a brown face mask of figurative fecal matter that has splashed back in "his" face from all the falsehoods and misrepresenations "he's" flung at the wall hoping it would stick. :-)

"We have stealer amiga, we have you begging JeffSees to post 10 times so you can have time to hack into his computer, we have all your cocky comments."

Yes, I told "Jeff" to do it over and over because when "he" does it, it just makes "him" look more and more stupid and ridiculous.

"We have you posting links trying to get people to go places so you can get their IP. We have you posting that you wrote new articles so people will go to your website so you you can get their IPs."

I posted about my blogs and Yahoo group forum so people would join me there for discussion, you ninny. :-) I could care less about their IP addresses. I have better things to do, like keep iron fisted control over THIS blog. :-)

"The articles are very stupid by the way. You are not very bright writing the way you do. People have to ask themselves what planet you are on to write in the fashion you do much less find it interesting."

Fine, then don't read it. :-)

"Face it, you are a hacker."

Face it, you either lie, are afflicted with pathological paranoia, are intellectually challenged, or you're just plain acting like an a*shole repeatedly making these false and refuted accusations. And nobody but a fool is likely to believe any of them.

"I can read, I can tell you will argue instead of looking at yourself, but you truly are one weird dude!"

Look in the mirror to see who REALLY needs to look at themselves and perceive the full measure of THEIR weirdness. :-)

Steve said...

"I agree with your post. I was so taken back with Nag's last comment that I questioned if it was "really" nag."

If you aren't "taken back" with what the people in the financial and insurance sectors are doing to the rest of us then I am "taken back" by you. If I've engaged in a little hyperbole by calling it "rape," as many others have too, surely it's not particularly shocking given the magnitude of what is being done to us by the people in question.

Steve said...

Coonhound, are you being serious or "playful"? I ask because it's increasingly difficult to tell the difference.

Coonhound said...

I'm taken BACK by YOUR words and comparisons, nagarjuna.

Coonhound said...

Nag,

I'm being serious, but I'm not "mad" at you, nor is there any "underlying" anger or malice.

This is an area that we "butt" heads.

Coonhound said...

Here it is nagarjuna:

This is how I perceive it...

You refuse to discuss the brutality and havoc behind the acts of REAL rapists.

Rather, you are quick to counter people to think think about how the rapist, molestor or kidnapper must "feel". And you encourage us to consider THEM as sick bc they couldn't refrain from their actions due to deterministic "science" or psychology.

Then you come in here and post a financial injustice and want to talk about RAPE and ABUSE in that regards.

Huh????

Steve said...

Nagarjuna,

"Protective custody?

does that mean a more secure part of the prison where he would be not as accessible to other inmates?"

Yes.

"Then that's fine with me, too, IF that is what the court determines as "Just". I have Faith in our legal system, nag."

Good. Because that is where Garrido will be sent when he goes to prison after his conviction, and for excellent reason.

"I want him to have consequences."

I think it's fair to say that being locked away in prison for the rest of one's life and being despised by almost everyone inside and out is consequential.

"And I have never specified torture, my friend, nor would I. Rather PG seems to know a good bit about TORTURE!"

Coonhound, I don't believe that you are either stupid or ignorant enough to think that if PG were left in the general prison population, he wouldn't be brutally assaulted and quite probably killed. So, if you want him in the general population, it's difficult to see this as your not wanting him to be, in effect, tortured.
Unlike you, I do not "feel sorry" for this man and I do not "assume" that he's mentally incompetant.

I know you don't, although I can't begin to fathom why not.

"Once he's found GUITLY, why would he deserve "special treatment" above and beyond other prisoners? "

He doesn't deserve to be brutally assaulted or murdered. Or do you disagree? Therefore, he needs special protection from this. Don't play dumb, Coonhound. Or are you only "playing"?

As far as I'm concerned, that's a decision for after the trial based on the testimony of REAL professionals. Unlike you, I am NOT getting prematurely "WORKED UP" concerning his fate.

"Worked up"? Are you projecting?

"His noterioty is self-induced, self-made. The people of CA or of the USA, or of the world did not do this, HE DID."

WHY did he do it?

"The problem here is not that our society is cruel and NOT compassionate, rather PG IS cruel and not compassionate."

I say that BOTH have been excessively cruel and lacking in compassion.

I'm not "playing games" regarding this situation.I am very serious on this subject.

So am I.

I'm realistic and practical, YOU are NOT.

No, you being cruel and hypocritical. You claim to be Christian yet you don't even try to feel and speak as your Lord would have at least try to feel and speak about ALL of God's children, including PG.

"You have suggested "Killing" the man. As a Christian I do struggle with the death penalty in general and can't seem to be at rest either way, for or against it. Therfore I generally don't speak up concerning it."

What do you think the most famous victim of capital punishment in all of history would probably say about it?

"But I am very much a supporter of individual accountability here on this earth; and, as a christian, each person's spiritual being is between that person and whomever they believe "the Lord" to be."

You never really answered the question I posed to you last night about how your Lord would want you to feel toward Garrido. You certainly haven't answered it here today. Dodge...dodge...dodge.

"And YOU are fooling yourself when you precariously speculate that "they are doing well" or however you worded it."

Maybe YOU are fooling YOURSELF to "speculate" otherwise.

I find some of your "arguements" to be very outlandish and insensitive to the REAL victims here, Nagarjuna.

Such as, Coonhound?

Steve said...

"You refuse to discuss the brutality and havoc behind the acts of REAL rapists."

What have I not "discussed" about this that you think I should?

"Rather, you are quick to counter people to think think about how the rapist, molestor or kidnapper must "feel".

It's a dirty job but it needs to be done and no one else here is doing it.

"And you encourage us to consider THEM as sick bc they couldn't refrain from their actions due to deterministic "science" or psychology."

If they could have refrained from their actions, WHY didn't they? Of course, science in general and psychology in particular are "deterministic." They are about discovering and manipulating the CAUSES of effects. Human psychology is about understanding and applying this understanding of WHY people do the things they do, of what CAUSES them to do what they do.

Then you come in here and post a financial injustice and want to talk about RAPE and ABUSE in that regards.

So, what. In the scheme of things, a strong argument could be made that the damage done to society by "financial injustice" grossly exceeds the damage done by the PG's of the world. But the fact is, both are terribly damaging, and neither is irrelevant to a blog that has already expanded its range to just about everything under the proverbial sun.

Huh????

Huh!

Coonhound said...

Why should I feel sorry for PG, nag?

in fact, since you want to throw up christianity, show me through the NEW TESTAMENT Words of the Bible that it would be christian of me to "feel sorry" for him.

For the record I do not use study bibles and I do consult the KJV. I am not a big fan of revised bibles, although I do realize that all bibles are technically "revised".

Steve said...

Coonhound, since you haven't answered so far today, let me again ask you the question I asked you last night.

"You REALLY think your Lord would have no "issue" with you wanting Garrido placed in a situation where you know he would be treated with abject brutality and almost certainly murdered?"

Coonhound said...

I have some errands to do my friend, but I will "be back."

Steve said...

"Why should I feel sorry for PG, nag?

Why SHOULDN'T you feel sorry for someone afflicted with powerful urges you presumably and blessedly never experienced and never had to struggle with, who was unable to resist those urges, and has consequently destroyed his life and become one of the most despised, even by so-called Christians, persons in the entire country if not world?

"in fact, since you want to throw up christianity, show me through the NEW TESTAMENT Words of the Bible that it would be christian of me to "feel sorry" for him."

It's not so much a matter of "feeling sorry" for him as it's not hatefully and vindictively wanting him to be tortured and murdered. And surely you don't mean to suggest that the OVERALL teachings of any version of the NT you might want to consult and the spirit embodied by this teaching wouldn't have you try to feel some measure of compassion and mercy toward a fellow child of God who has gone astray.

Steve said...

I have errands to run too this morning. But let me say something before I leave that may shed some light on why I wrote of the figurative "rape? perpetrated by the financial sector.

Over the weekend, I watched a film about Enron and the havoc they wreaked on California by their depraved actions. I was particularly infuriated by recordings of some of their "brokers" or whatever they were called who were joking and laughing uproariously about "old grandmothers" having to go without power and air conditioning in the sweltering summer unless they paid their share of the inflated energy prices caused by Enron's manipulations.

A couple of days later, I read that the APR on my credit card issued by one of the biggest recipients of the recent bailout are almost doubling for everyone. This comes in the wake of almost having ALL my APR's doubled after I was inadvertently late with only one payment after over 20 years of being a loyal customer to this institution. Then I read about mostly Republicans watering down a bill in Congress to give the government more regulatory power over the financial "industry" in order to protect consumers from shady lending practices. Then I hear about Wall Street bailout firms continuing to give out huge bonuses and send high paid lobbyists to Washington to dissuade Congress from enacting laws against this. And then I read the article that I quoted from last night, and, yes, I felt furious and DID see what's going on in the financial sector as a kind of "rape" of the American people every bit as destructive to society overall if not far more so than the actions of a comparatively small number of pedophiles and other sex offenders.

So, be "taken back" with me all you want, but maybe you should be more taken back with the culture of greed that has utterly taken over our society and which threatens to destroy us as a nation as well as our individual souls.

Steve said...

"Nagarjuna, you are pathetic. It would serve you right if you were kidnapped and raped."

That is perhaps the most "pathetic" low that you or anyone else has stooped to here. You really need to search your soul and see clearly the black depths to which you've descended because of your malignant hatred for someone who has never done you any harm.

"Go to hell."

If you are a Christian and there IS a hell, then sentiments like that may very well land you there.

And don't say that is what you meant creepola. What else does having this compassion for the satanic asshole mean? You are creepy in every way.

No, YOU are creepy and a coward to boot, hiding behind your various ID's and refusing to come out of hiding and talk to me "man to man." You ARE a man, AREN'T YOU? :-)

Steve said...

"James"/"Jeff"/"Freak"/"Cecil" et al, you better wipe that sh*t off your face before it becomes so thick and dry that it suffocates you. :-)

Coonhound said...

"Fellow child of God"

According to WHO, nagarjuna?

Compassion and mercy?

You are confused, nag.

If PG is a child of god, then he must pray for compassion and mercy from his MAKER bc PG's acts are "strong evil desires" and the Bible calls this EVIL CONUPISCENCE; and that is idolatry according to the Lord.

Col chapter 3 lists such things (idolatry)

And Verse 6 states that the wrath of God will come upon those that partake.

Also verse 5 states to mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth...(Lists behavior unsightly to God and against God)

Mortify means to humiliate, to discipline.

Steve said...

""Fellow child of God"

According to WHO, nagarjuna?"

Are you saying that you and PG are not BOTH "God's children"?

"Compassion and mercy?

You are confused, nag."

I am "confused" about Christianity not teaching compassion and mercy for ALL who suffer?

If PG is a child of god, then he must pray for compassion and mercy from his MAKER bc PG's acts are "strong evil desires" and the Bible calls this EVIL CONUPISCENCE; and that is idolatry according to the Lord.

So, Christians are not to feel compassion toward someone who suffers, or they aren't to feel it unless and until that person prays and receives God's forgiveness? Come on, Coonhound! :-) And, why do people have and act on "strong evil desires" for which you, apparently, think they don't merit compassion. Do you ever take your Pharisitical nose out of the letter of the book long enough to consider its SPIRIT and reflect not only on the "wages of sin" but also on he real, underlying CAUSES of it?

"Col chapter 3 lists such things (idolatry)

And Verse 6 states that the wrath of God will come upon those that partake.

Also verse 5 states to mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth...(Lists behavior unsightly to God and against God)

Mortify means to humiliate, to discipline.

So what? None of this cuts to the heart of the issue, does it?

Coonhound said...

"Its not so much a matter of feeling sorry for him..."

Evidently it is from your view point BASED on numerous posts from you.

Yes, I have stated "general population" for PG and I have also stated that I would be fine with him being placed in a more secure part of prison.

What becomes of him is not within my control or yours. I accept that fact.

God does not guarantee physical safety here on earth.

Rather, HE guarantees spiritual safety. And he guarentees heaven, or eternal life, to those that HE, meaning the Lord, knows.

Coonhound said...

Hey Nag,

what matters is who a "child of God serves"

And from what I can see,

PG has been a servant of satan.

BUT only Christ knows ALL things and matters concerning PG, not me, not you.

Steve said...

"Evidently it is from your view point BASED on numerous posts from you."

Again, I told you what I was talking about--i.e., his not being placed in circumstances very likely to subject him to brutal assault or even murder.

But, yes, I think, in principle, we should feel as sorry for PG as we should for Jaycee and her daughters, although, in practice, this is all but impossible for anyone but an exalted saint or sage, which none of us here appear to be.

"What becomes of him is not within my control or yours. I accept that fact.

God does not guarantee physical safety here on earth.

Rather, HE guarantees spiritual safety. And he guarentees heaven, or eternal life, to those that HE, meaning the Lord, knows."

So, what I hear you saying, Coonhound, is that God doesn't care if you want PG brutalized and murdered in prison or not because, after all, what you want won't affect the outcome and, besides, God doesn't guarantee anyone physical safety on earth, so why should he care if you want Garrido tortured and killed? :-)

Coonhound said...

One thing is for sure, that man does need to hit the floor on his knees and pray for compassion and mercy from God.

Compassion and mercy FROM God!

Oh yes, I do believe that my friend bc it is not I that will be judging him according to his works.

Coonhound said...

You hear nothing Nagarjuna. You only hear your misconceptions.

Steve said...

"what matters is who a "child of God serves. And from what I can see, PG has been a servant of satan. BUT only Christ knows ALL things and matters concerning PG, not me, not you."

Oh, so if he's a "child of God" who, in your HUMAN opinion, has been serving Satan, he doesn't deserve your compassion?

By the way, have you ever stopped to seriously reflect on WHY anyone would knowingly and freely become a "servant of Satan," or why a REAL God of omnipotence and omnibenevolence would allow Satan to even exist and seduce vulnerable mortals?

Coonhound said...

You twist, assume, and add your OWN spin to what people say.

It's rather obnoxious at times.

I don't mean that in a cruel way.

Steve said...

"You hear nothing Nagarjuna. You only hear your misconceptions."

How have I 'misconceived' your words, Coonhound? How did I not paraphrase them VERY accurately?

Steve said...

"You twist, assume, and add your OWN spin to what people say.

It's rather obnoxious at times.

I don't mean that in a cruel way."

People have been accusing me of that from the outset, and every time they do, I ask them to show me WHERE and HOW I've done that, and they don't. Will YOU? Will YOU show me what I "twisted" in what you said?

Steve said...

I posted the following quote by philosopher Robert Kane to my new blog about free will. It seems appropriate to our discussion here of "sin" and compassion.

"John Milton describes the angels debating how some of them could have sinned of their own free wills given that God made them intelligent and happy. Why would they have done it? And why were they responsible for their sins rather than God, since God had made them the way they were and had complete foreknowledge of what they would do? While puzzling over such questions even the angels, according to Milton, were "in Endless Mazes lost" (not a comforting thought for us humans)."

Steve said...

I still haven't run my errands. I need to now. I'll be back later. You can come out now "James"/"Jeff" and get some more sh*t on your face. :-)

Coonhound said...

"So, what I hear you saying, Coonhound, is that God doesn't care if you want PG brutalized and murdered in prison or not because, after all, what you want won't affect the outcome and, besides, God doesn't guarantee anyone physical safety on earth, so why should he care if you want Garrido tortured and killed? :-)"


Here's an example, rediculous.

Steve said...

"Here's an example, rediculous."

Gotta go. But before I do, I respectfully ask you to explain how this is NOT what you were REALLy saying.

I'll read your explanation, if you have one, when I return in a few hours.

Coonhound said...

Oh no Nag,

You want to talk bible, then we'll talk bible.

But do not confuse Philosophy with GOD's word or His son.

Philosphers are a dime a dozen, my friend.

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