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good morning Nag the weather is cold and rainy windy and dark and gloomy.. movie day for sure. lol.
"I do believe he hasnt been actually called that for quite some time but just keeps bringing it up as if its present.."
Brenda, for whatever it's worth, Boogie repeated her accusation last night before I went bowling, and that was the reason I brought it up again.
Hi brendaStar, goodmorning to you.
I do believe nag addressed the nasty name bc of something boogie addressed to another person. I didn't catch it until after i wrote that post to nag.
Coonhound,
Check! not sure what it is in reference to but okay. thank you for the fyi. I hope your having a good morning.. :)
Coonhound. If you do not like it when I call Nag a pedophile, I suggest you stop asking me about it. I have explained this until I am blue in the face. Others have as well.
Beside that, you seem to totally void all the bullshit Nag has pulled in here. What kind of conversation would this between you and I be? Another argument. No thanks.
October 12, 2009 7:34 PM
Yes I am.
And you've stuck to behaving with much class and tact.
Kudos to you Brendstar. I am very glad to see that in you, actually GLAD to see it in any preson but its not a common feature now a days.
By the way, Coonhound, I hope that you no longer think I was playing "puppet games" yesterday. That is something I have never done here and never will.
Thanks for addressing me first nag before reposting that!
"Thanks for addressing me first nag before reposting that!"
Actually, it was Boogie addressing you. I just reposted her entire comment without any embellishment.
Don't press me naggy. I have "stood up against" the vicious bahvior with more conviction than anybody.
And I can assure you it was not to kiss your bottom, but rather for a matter of principle.
thank you again Coonhound :) (warm fuzzies) I appreciate your words very much.
I am very aware that it was originally boogs comment to me.
Yes nag, embellishment, something you know much about.
"Don't press me naggy."
Coonhound, I can't force you to believe it wasn't me. But I bring it up today because it's important to me. When we post to one another, it's reassuring to believe that we can trust one another to be telling the truth and not "playing games" of deception. You indicated yesterday that you were "disappointed" with me for doing something that I hadn't done, and, after Denise demonstrating to you that it's possible to post under other peoples' usernames, I had hoped that you were at least less inclined to believe that I was "playing games."
"Yes nag, embellishment, something you know much about."
Meaning?
Nag,
Have you only skimmed over the posts that seem most pertinent to you War of defense?
If you want to discuss this with me and want me to listen, then I suggest you take a more mild mannered approach.
Yourwelcome BrendaStar.
That behavior will never lead you astray!
I admire it.
Oh, and brenda...
That is "exactly" why I called you a gem by the way.
"If you want to discuss this with me and want me to listen, then I suggest you take a more mild mannered approach."
Coonhound, the last thing in the world that I'm trying to do this morning is wage any kind of war, and I am not being anything other than mild mannered. I don't understand your reaction at all. I am simply trying to clear the air about the fact that I read your comment yesterday that you were "disappointed" with me for "playing puppet games," and I am trying to make it clear that it wasn't ME.
I'm not being hostile or waging war.
Nag,
I didn't get the courtsey of hello, goodmoring, or nothing prior to you pressing on about this.
So save it Buster.
are you guys still at it.
How is TheBoogieManHater calling Nag a pedophile in this statement:
"Coonhound. If you do not like it when I call Nag a pedophile, I suggest you stop asking me about it. I have explained this until I am blue in the face. Others have as well."
It appears to me that TheBoogieManHater is constantly makings statements that she does not want argument in here. She suggests you remember your own words or look up your own words, she is not going to argue. Goblinbee denial doesn't deserve a response either. So, when you keep pressing Coonhound. What do you really think this statement says? If you choose not to remember what you have done offensive to TheBoogieManHater or anyone else for that matter, it is clear to me this is why she doesn't have anything further to say to you.
Nag you want to bitch and moan about BoogieManHater and BrendaStars views, you want people to banish them, you criticise, figuratively slap as you put it, as well as many other people since this blog started. Then you simply come back for what appears to be about the 10th time and say, can't we all get along. I want to. (I would certainly like to see the answer to that one in words, WHY.) Is it because you know now that certainly the law is watching after all you dispicable comments the last few days. You have this thought that pedophiles did not do their actions, a sickness did. Do you ever bend on your thought? Why should TheBoogieManHater bend on her thoughts? You have presented yourself in a very strange frame of mind.
to me the statements means Coonhound, if you do not want BoogieManHater to state this anymore, stop pressing her to explain how she knows and feels the way she does.
Well TheBoogieManHater? Care to elaborate?
"I didn't get the courtsey of hello, goodmoring, or nothing prior to you pressing on about this.
So save it Buster."
Coonhound, I'm sorry if I lack in the social graces you expect. But I don't think I've "pressed" you on anything this morning, or been out of line with you in any way. If I had said previously, and understandably under the circumstances, that I was "disappointed" with you for playing deceptive games with multiple ID's when you had done nothing of the kind, would you be out of line to try to make it clear that you had done no such thing? Maybe you would have prefaced it with a "Good morning" or something of the kind, but you might well have tried to clear the air about the suspicion. That is what I was trying to do, and I continue to be mystified by your reaction. It seems uncharacteristic of you.
"So, when you keep pressing Coonhound. What do you really think this statement says? "
I don't know who you are, but since you may speak for others here, I'll address your points. I'm not "pressing" Coonhound on anything. If you believe otherwise, please elaborate. I reposted Boogie's comment to Coonhound from last night to document it, since she had said that she didn't think Boogie had brought up the pedophile accusation recently. Boogie's comment last night was a repeating of the accusation. I was not "pressing" Coonhound about anything. I told her I hoped she didn't think I had posted under multiple ID's. That was all.
"Nag you want to bitch and moan about BoogieManHater and BrendaStars views, you want people to banish them, you criticise, figuratively slap as you put it, as well as many other people since this blog started."
I don't want anybody to "banish" anybody. I have apologized for my jocular provocations. And I'm making good on my pledge to conduct myself in an exemplary manner.
"Is it because you know now that certainly the law is watching after all you dispicable comments the last few days."
The "law" can watch me all it wants. I have done nothing illegal. And I have made no "despicable" comments here, although I have uttered silly insults that I am not proud of. Boogie, on the other hand, has made some truly "despicable" comments here. Yet, I catch the heat.
"You have this thought that pedophiles did not do their actions, a sickness did. Do you ever bend on your thought? Why should TheBoogieManHater bend on her thoughts?"
Do you truly mean to suggest an equivalence between my persistently arguing a psychological determinist position and Boogie persistently and unequivocally calling me a pedophile?
"if you do not want BoogieManHater to state this anymore, stop pressing her to explain how she knows and feels the way she does."
So, let me get this straight. I am wrong to "press" someone to furnish the non-existent proof they have that I'm the pedophile they falsely accuse me of being, AFTER they once again accuse me of it.
"since she had said that she didn't think Boogie had brought up the pedophile accusation recently."
Correction: Since Brenda had said that she didn't think Boogie had brought it up recently."
This has been a very perplexing morning so far. I hope it improves as the day progresses.
I am struck by how easily misperceptions and misunderstandings can occur and fester into real discord, and it's quite discouraging.
While it may be too late to make any difference, good morning, Coonhound. I hope your day's going better than mine so far. :-)
It is no wonder there is so much friction in this blog. Can anyone read and relate a typed statement to prior posts as a conversation.
When the subject of the post was TheBoogieManHater's statement, and it was a post addressed to Coonhound, and it my post says "So, when you keep pressing Coonhound. What do you really think this statement says?", just who do you think the statement was addressed to.
Try again. A lack of spending time to read, and comprehend before you respond, has led to many arguments on this blog.
And Nagarjuna, it doesn't matter who I am, I AM.
Good day to you nag.
Thank you:)
"When the subject of the post was TheBoogieManHater's statement, and it was a post addressed to Coonhound, and it my post says "So, when you keep pressing Coonhound. What do you really think this statement says?", just who do you think the statement was addressed to."
I don't know what you're talking about, "Jeff." Maybe that's my fault. Maybe it's yours. Maybe it's both of ours. In any case, I'm doing my best to understand and communicate with you.
"Try again."
With all due respect, I think it is YOU who needs to "try again" to address the points I made.
Nag,
Might I request a persoal favor of you?
It is really very simple, but you may find it challenging none the less.
Coonhound--
You can request. I can consider your request. And we can go from there.
"Jeff," now I see your point about the Coonhound part of your comment, although it could have been worded more clearly.
But I also responded to that substantial portion of your comment that was addressed to me. And I'm awaiting your response to THAT.
Thank you, in advance.
My request to you is in regards to Boogie and its cronies, inluding this jeffsees.
Please refrain from acknowleding the unfounded accusations, defending yourself of them and from making jabs at them.
I'm not requesting you shun completely, rather shun the unsightly behavior.
Please accept my request and trust that I have my reasons.
I too will do the same. I'm sure denise will go along. And GB and BS have clearly proven themselves in this manner anyway.
Let's refrain from adding ANY fuel to THEIR fire. It is THE BIGGEST of all smoke screens.
Trust me if you have any hesitations, I do have my reasons, but will not elaborate.
Coonhound, whether or not I ever know all your "reasons" (and I admit that I would REALLY like to know them :-)), your request seems wise, and I have no problem honoring it.
Well that is Coonhound, "As Wise As Taylor".
It is easy to brush off common sense by requesting one of "Your" cronies to not respond to another.
I do not know TheBoogieManHater, or anyone else in this blog, so, why is it that you in all your wisdom can say this?
What have I asked or said that was anything less than common sense.
Nagarjuna, I can go back and copy and paste your comments from over this blog, and then I can ask you again, why should anyone take you at your word that you want peace again. Does this really need to be done, or can you just simply agree that simply saying you apologized is enough? How many times have you apologized and come back to the same statements? If you did not intend on hurting individuals, why do you call on these others to help you do so?
What could you possibly think of to say to get others in this "Public" blog past your words?
rewrite: or can you just simply agree that simply saying you apologized is "NOT" enough?
You said you left me an answer, then something that you wanted me to respond to.
This was addressed to you:
"Nag you want to bitch and moan about BoogieManHater and BrendaStars views, you want people to banish them, you criticise, figuratively slap as you put it, as well as many other people since this blog started. Then you simply come back for what appears to be about the 10th time and say, can't we all get along. I want to. (I would certainly like to see the answer to that one in words, WHY.)"
Can you answer this. I will look for your question to me
Thanks nag.
And I do know that it will be challenging for us both.
Denise is like whatever, she let's very little ruffle her feathers.
And bs and gb, well it is their very nature and are naturally inclines to ignore such behavior too.
You and I on the other hand have only played into the games of boog and gang. And we have been motivated by raw emotion here recently.
Also, I'm over the cecil profile. I trusted denise's words and wisdom. And frankly, even if you were a puppet player, I do not believe you would of been so sloppy, nor would that of been your puppet of choice. And at this point I am inclined to rest on the belief that you are NOT playing puppet games anyway. That's what I wouldve told you this morning had you just asked with a little so called social grace:)
Nagarjuna, please copy your question again. I do not see a question to me that relates to anything correctly interpreted of my message.
"Now's the time for Senate Finance Committee and the White House to say to the insurance industry: You want to play hardball? Okay. We'll play it, too. You didn't want a public insurance option. That was one of your conditions for supporting the bill. You wanted gigantic profits from having thirty million new paying customers and the market to yourself. We agreed because we wanted your support and were afraid of the negative ads and hurricane of opposition you could finance. But you're even greedier than we imagined. And now you've demonstrated that greed to the American people. They don't want to turn over even more of their hard-earned money to you. So, insurance companies, we've got news for you. We're going to make sure Americans have the freedom to choose a public insurance option that's cheaper and better, and you're going to have to work hard to keep them your customers."
--Robert Reich (Salon)
I did find this one and a few answers afterward.
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"Nag you want to bitch and moan about BoogieManHater and BrendaStars views, you want people to banish them, you criticise, figuratively slap as you put it, as well as many other people since this blog started."
I don't want anybody to "banish" anybody. I have apologized for my jocular provocations. And I'm making good on my pledge to conduct myself in an exemplary manner.
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Where have you apologized as stated?: "I have apologized for my jocular provocations."
"Jocular" provocations. Seriously, do you think this description is acceptable to those you have offended? How is it that you can say the things you have said to others, so "jokingly", make serious requests of others to "ignore" others, criticize others very serious work, and then so casually expect it all to be so easily dismissed?
Thank you, Coonhound. Yes, I've never been particularly adept at "social graces," especially when I'm focused on other matters. I have ADHD and find it very hard to focus on a lot of things. But when something really catches my interest, I will look past everything else and hone in like a laser on just that one thing.
Sometimes, that's good. Sometimes, not so good. :-)
But I WILL say something to those who doubt my sincerity in wanting to make this a more hospitable place for frinedly dialogue something I've said before: "The proof is in the pudding." So stick around, you cynics and naysayers, and taste my pudding. :-)
Nag,
Question.
No doubt you support the public option. I'm on the fence a bit with it.
Please share with me the concerns that YOU do see with the public option. I do realize that such concerns in your opinion are minimal considering the bigger picture.
But I really want to here your concerns regarding potentional downfalls and disadvantages in adding the public option.
Brenda, if you're still out there, I hope you're enjoying your movies. What movies are you watching today?
and this response:
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"You have this thought that pedophiles did not do their actions, a sickness did. Do you ever bend on your thought? Why should TheBoogieManHater bend on her thoughts?"
Do you truly mean to suggest an equivalence between my persistently arguing a psychological determinist position and Boogie persistently and unequivocally calling me a pedophile?
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Do you mean to tell me you are a psychologist? If you can assume all the things you have assumed and related in heated debate in this blog under a psychologist perspective, while you are not a psychologist, how can you judge others that have their own psychological study of other human beings and assumptions. Are they both not equally defunct?
Why do you assume my question was any sort of a suggestion: "do you mean to suggest".
Please tell my why you feel TheBoogieManHater should bend her thoughts, when you do not see fit to bend in your thoughts. Are they both not assumptions? Do people not make assumptions every day while making their decisions?
So there you have the truth, and no-one excepted your non-apology, and no-one should be expected, or likely will change their opinion of you. You Nagarjuna bring this on yourself. Isn't that right Taylor?
Nag,
Your pudding is fine.
And yes I have noticed your tendancy to over focus at times...relentlessly.
Remember, let's not even offer a pinch of something to THEM to bite on with hostility, sarcasm, or hate.
If you need a good challenging release for your debateful ways, just turn to me or denise.
I'll be happy to figuratively slap the p*ss out of you! That's fun:)
Coonhound, I have to preface what I say by stating that I'm for national health insurance with NO private involvement unless it's some kind of coverage for super-duper luxury care for the fat cats who can afford it.
So, I see no real downside to the "public option." I understand that the private insurers and their clients who are happy (or think they're happy with their present coverage because they haven't run smack dab into the woeful limitations of their coverage yet, and they still have their jobs that provide this coverage) don't want the public option because they're afraid that if it's cheaper than private coverage, more and more businesses are going to go for the public option and the private options will diminish in numbers and their profits will too.
But I don't believe that healthcare should be a "for profit industry." Yes, the healthcare providers need to earn enough to live a good life and have their expenses met, but we don't need insurance executives earning millions of dollars a year in part from rejecting coverage to all kinds of people who need it the most.
As I've said before, I believe that it needs to be acknowledged that we ALL have a basic right to decent, affordable healthcare, and I believe that the public option is a way to turn this principle into reality. If private insurers can compete with the public option in terms of premiums or service, more power to them. if they can't, good riddance.
What are your concerns about the public option, Coonhound?
"I'll be happy to figuratively slap the p*ss out of you! That's fun:)"
Go for it, Coonhound, :-)
I admit that there's someone I'd love to slap the pi*s out of right now. But it would be like slapping around a little kid. Much too easy. No challenge whatsoever. And an unsavory addition to my fresh pudding. :-)
I'm wooried about quality of care diminishingand long waits for more elaborate healthcare things. Um, for most average needs I believe the universal process will be fine, but am afraid that we(americans) will suffer from red tape and limited options when our need(s) become more serious in nature...basically long waiting periods.
I'm very concerned about the gov't managing universal healthcare.
They already have been borrowing from medicare. What if they do it with the universal monetary pool?
Correction to my previous post: I meant to say that there is someone I would love to FIGURATIVELY (as in metaphorically) slap the pi*s out of right now. But it would be like figuratively or literally slapping around a little kid :-)
Nag,
Please take my request to heart and honor it, unconditionally. Otherwise it will blow up in our faces.
You want me to trust you, then give me a little more trust my friend.
Please.
Coonhound, we've had Tara tell us and refer us to articles that tell us that the overall service is better in the UK's NHS than it is for us here, and I've read and heard the same things elsewhere. I don't have the reflexive aversion to government involvement in vital services that some people do. The government provides us with police and fire protection, infrastructure, and all kinds of other things that would be very awkwardly and inconsistently provided (and probably at greater expense) by private agencies and companies.
If we could move health insurance away from being employer based--where business is overburdened with health care costs and people feel desperately locked into jobs they hate, adn where they lose their coverage if they lose their jobs for any reason), provide decent, accessible, and affordable healthcare to all using private insurers, then I wouldn't oppose it. But I don't see how you can have for profit companies do this. So, I say let's try the public option and see what happens with it and tweak it along the way.
No, we can't be certain of the nature and extent of the downsides they may issue forth. But we need to do SOMETHING, and the time is now. Once the Republicans gain more power, as they inevitably will, there will be no chance for any significant reform for a long time. Let's not wait any longer.
Good point about the govt providing us with police and fire protection. But nag that is more or less handled by state and local govt, NOT the federal govt.
Nagarjuna wrote: “I will look into some of them, and come back here and set you straight. :-)”
Always with a smiley face after a sarcastic comment. Let’s look at the psychology in this one statement. The smiley face. You are proud to belittle, deminish value of other’s views, and then later call it a joke.
“I will look into” You have not yet done so, you have no knowledge on the subject.
“I will look into some of them” You are willing to see partial (some) aspects of a subject.
“I will look into some of them, and come back here and set you straight.” Knowing in advance that you have not yet studied, nor know the subject, you find yourself above all fault and error, an ego that rises above all other man and opinion.
You are certain your preconceived ideas are correct without study. Your will for control and power is overly stated and unearned. Your respect for others is nil.
So when you are trying to deminish the value of another's words, and you wish your words to be heard over all others. You wish to have your followers condemn and ostracize others. What does this make you.
You do like psychology. I am wondering if you know where these traits lead. You want to be a leader correct. Nothing wrong with that.
So, when you cannot get people to fall into and succumb to your views, why do the childish threats of spankings and banishment come in. The loss of control, and then later words of regret and apology come from?
Nag,
Patience is a virtue:)
JeffSees,
you REALLY DO SEE!!!!! Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Always with a smiley face after a sarcastic comment. Let’s look at the psychology in this one statement. The smiley face. You are proud to belittle, deminish value of other’s views, and then later call it a joke."
"I will look into some of them, and come back here and set you straight.” Knowing in advance that you have not yet studied, nor know the subject, you find yourself above all fault and error, an ego that rises above all other man and opinion."
"You are certain your preconceived ideas are correct without study. Your will for control and power is overly stated and unearned. Your respect for others is nil."
"So when you are trying to deminish the value of another's words, and you wish your words to be heard over all others. You wish to have your followers condemn and ostracize others."
"So, when you cannot get people to fall into and succumb to your views, why do the childish threats of spankings and banishment come in. The loss of control, and then later words of regret and apology come from?"
I COULD NOT AGREE WITH YOU MORE ON THIS!
"But nag that is more or less handled by state and local govt, NOT the federal govt."
Yes, but doesn't the federal government help provide funding and oversight for some of this? What's more, if we can figure out how to enable the states to provide decent, affordable, accessible healthcare to all of their citizens without minimal or no federal involvement, fine. But if we can't, and private companies can't or won't do it, then I say let's go with the federal government's involvement, because what we have now is terribly flawed in practice as well as principle, in my humble opinion. :-)
So much for a certain someone having "proven" herself, Coonhound. Oh well.
Doesn't your very limited knowledge of psychology tell you that these traits are unstable and dangerous? Noone else can be in this blog if they do not agree with me. Noone else's words matter if I disagree with them. This is my blog, get out. "Figuratively Slap", you have also made your size known to intimidate others on this blog. Does this not say that if you had the opportunity you would force what you want... to shut someone else up?
You use psychology, you do not understand it. I do believe you have some sort of problem, and I do not see anyone forgiving you nor your actions when you truly see no harm done. To call what you have done a joke and asking others to come back and enjoy your humor time and time again is of a very abusive nature. Should a woman stay in an abusive relationship when her husband beats her, and then repetitively run after her in apology.
You once stated that you left the blog, but decided to come back because you felt that someone chased you out. They didn't believe in the psychological protection you were giving to pedophiles for your actions. You have also created a blog and a Yahoo meeting spaces for your followers. (sounds like manson), but you still come back here and continue attacking others. Is the truth not that you just want to have control of this blog.
You want to control the blog of a pedophile.
How would psychology study this and the actions you have taken to make this blog yours?
I don't no to what degree the fed gives oversight to our police and fireman, very little oversight and yes, some monies.
But I know this, the fed has their hands in our education a good bit. And that has been a joke.
The intent of "no child left behind" was so nice in "theory" but otherwise it has been a waste. How do you feel on that issue?
Please don't answer me as if you want to SELL me on anything. I'm trying to open my mind here to new ideas.
nag,
Lay off brendstar. K? She's fine.
Try to take a step back and see a bigger picture here in regards to my request and why I would ask such a thing from you with full knowledge that it would be difficult. K?
I'm not sure how the public education system works in terms of who wields the most control over it. I thought it was primarily controlled by local and state governing bodies with some federal funding and involvement. I also don't think governments alone are to blame for the shortcomings of public education. It's a much more systemic problem in our society than that. We need a culture and parents that value formal education more than they do now and perhaps have more time to help their kids with their education than they have now. And something similar could be said for healthcare. In addition to government involvement in providing it for everyone, we also need a society that teaches and inspires people to live much healthier lifestyles that can prevent many of the worst and most expensive illnesses and diseases from arising.
"Try to take a step back and see a bigger picture here in regards to my request and why I would ask such a thing from you with full knowledge that it would be difficult. K?"
Coonhound, I wish I could discuss this with you privately. But since I can't, I will only say publicly that I don't share your opinion on everything related to this matter, but I am still going along with you on it.
Nag,
I totally agree with you in regards to parents being more responsible in regards to education.
Parents have gotten lazy by being too reliant on THE SYSTEM.
I don't believe the fed govt is to blame for educatioal failures. but question the feds ability to get involved on state issues. You are right there are larger socialogical issues at stake in education and healthcare.
"I'm very concerned about the gov't managing universal healthcare.
They already have been borrowing from medicare. What if they do it with the universal monetary pool?"
What's the alternative, Coonhound? Continuing on our present course? Whether the government's involved or not, aren't WE the ones who end up paying anyway, either out of our taxes or our premiums? And if the private insurers continue to exclude so many of us, lock us into our jobs, keep us in constant fear of losing our coverage in one way or another, burden us with all kinds of "red tape" when we get really sick or badly injured and need least of all during that time to be focusing on the complexities and limitations of our private coverage, don't we need to try something else? And what could that something else be if not more government involvement, such as by way of the private option alternative?
IN JUST THE LAST TWO DAYS YOU YOU HAVE GONE UP AND DOWN THAT ROLLERCOASTER SHOWING INSTABLILITY.
READ IT AND LEARN
Sorry, Samantha, but I control this blog, and I deem you unworthy of participation here. So go away and don't come back until you have my permission to do so. I command you. And the only way you're going to get my permission after being such a bad girl is to e-mail me and BEG me to forgive you for your naughty conduct here.
So, off with you. Back to your banishment. :-)
Ole Nag has been too nice to you, Samantha. He tried to approach you with civility and respect and have substantive discussion with you. But he's lost his respect for you after all your foolishness, and now you're going to have to slowly, painfully earn it back. :-)
Get out of here before I FIGURATIVELY slap the pi*s out of you just like I did Boogie, you nutjob! :-)
Out out, Samantha! I command it! Back to the padded cell in the funny farm with you! :-)
WHAT "threat?" Get out of here before I REALLY let you have it, you loon. :-)
If Samantha comes back, you boot her butt right out of here for me. She's not allowed back until I say so. :-)
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NO RESPONSE FROM SAMANTHA TO THIS CRAZINESS, BUT A FEW HOURS LATER NAG SAYS:
Samantha with all due respect and civility, please accept my most humble apologies. I sit here for over an hour trying to put my thoughts together with this and I cannot put into words how ashamed I am when I read what a partook in tonight. I am lost for words at the moment. I hope you can believe that. I am truly sorry.
Denise “If I stab you in the eye with a butter knife all the way to the brain and kill you,,,should I get a lesser charge than lets say, stabbing you in the entire face with a pitchfork” or does it matter with my illness.
Why should I pay any charge when I am obviously ill and have no control over my actions?
"Obviously he is of questionable nature"
Samantha I apologized to you and I expect you will be adult here and apologize to me for telling Denise, and slandering me in this blog by saying this. I may have acted irrational and made jokes of figuratively slapping the pi*s out of you and others, but, I was only joking and I was a big enough man to apologize so I expect the same of you.
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THEN JUST A FEW HOURS LATER NAGARJUNA, YOU ARE BACK INTO A CRAZED AND CRUEL STATE OF MIND
Denise, I agree that we don't have to agree on Brenda's nonsense. I'm doing fine, and I hope you are too.
I don't know why you post so much nonsense, Brenda. But I believe that you have enough good sense in you to "STOP THE NONSENSE!
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SO WHAT IS MY POINT. NAGARJUNA, NOTHING IS MORE CLEAR THAN THE FACT THAT YOUR EMOTIONAL STATE FLUCTUATES DRAMATICALLY. THE RAGE IN YOUR WORDS IS NOT NORMAL. IT IS NOT TO BE LOOKED AT AS A JOKE.
YOU DO NEED TO SEE SOMEONE
Blogger Nagarjuna said...
"Try to take a step back and see a bigger picture here in regards to my request and why I would ask such a thing from you with full knowledge that it would be difficult. K?"
Coonhound, I wish I could discuss this with you privately. But since I can't, I will only say publicly that I don't share your opinion on everything related to this matter, but I am still going along with you on it.
********Oh, but you can. You have created your own blogs.. you have created Yahoo sites. You have emails going back and forth with your followers, You can discuss it privately. WHY THE NEED TO TAKE OVER A PEDOPHILE'S BLOG?
Nag,
Can't you see that these people are hounding you for kicks and giggles...best case scenario?
That's all it is.
Why give them any upper hand?
Clearly we have some seriously dimented people here, and nag it appears to me that they are willing to go farther along with all this.
That's why I say,
LET IT GO
LEI!!!
LET IT GO
Well, duh.
L I G
Let it go.
"I don't believe the fed govt is to blame for educatioal failures. but question the feds ability to get involved on state issues."
Coonhound, I too would prefer to see as much local involvement as possible and as little federal involvement as necessary in education and healthcare, provided that people throughout this nation receive good, affordable, and accessible education and healthcare.
But, again, I don't see how we can do this without significant federal involvement complemented by family involvement in and personal devotion to acquiring a strong education and living a healthy lifestyle.
But I'm open to your suggestions, Coonhound.
"That's all it is.
Why give them any upper hand?"
I didn't realize that I was, Coonhound. I thought we were discussing healthcare.
Nag,
Read those JeffSees comments objectively.
Can't you see bw any lines, my friend.
He/she is telling on her ownself.
Let them persist nag, they'll be able to show a clearer picture of truth with THEIR own words.
I have already seen so much to comment on, but WON'T bc that's what is wanted of me and especially of you.
Nag,
I feel foolish, but have to admit that I have very litle opinion towards any suggestions.
That's why I am open to hearing others views, feelings and beliefs on the matter.
I would like tara to reappear and provide more insight on her own experiences within the uk system.
"Quote"
JeffSees said...
Wow... Garrido act-a-likes. You people are scary. What is the point of going on in this blog anyway. I guess the want of power does go a long way with sick minds.
October 12, 2009 10:52 AM
Hello everyone. What a beautiful day it has turned out to be. Hope you are all doing well. :)
Coonhound, it is definitely a very complex issue, and I empathize with your distrust of big government. I do try to understand all sides of the issue despite my passionate feelings about it. I don't think there are any perfect answers that solve all problems in healthcare. But I can't think of a way of doing what I think needs to be done without making big changes that involve more federal government involvement. However, I continue to look for alternatives.
Well, nag I hate to blow out of here on ya. But I have to for now. I will wait on your next comment, but then I must get some farm business handled.
You take care.
Denise, Coonhound, Taylor
"Read those JeffSees comments objectively.
Can't you see bw any lines, my friend.
He/she is telling on her ownself."
You are guessing and you are incorrect. I am noone other than JeffSees in this blog, but I have been asked to come to this blog for a purpose. Are you getting the point?
I'll call you Denise, why do you not read the messages. I think you could learn something from them yourself. Or can you. Let's see, why would someone come in here every day pretending to have a job, but for several days they are not going to there job because of supposed sick children. Then worry about their job because they missed so much work, then come back and say, well, I am busy today, having nothing to say, so I am gone, then suddenly back to Coonhound for the day. Oops, have some help now. Suddenly after working about your job again. Ooops I lost my keys so I am not going to go to work today.
Who do you think you are kidding?
Nagarjuna needs support in his craziness, so you build your little team of support. Goodone. You forgot "Denise" how much information the email you posted really gives up.
"Hello everyone. What a beautiful day it has turned out to be."
Hi, Denise. I wish I could echo your sentiments here in wet and wildly windy Sacramento. :-)
You take care, too, Coonhound.
Isn't it funny how a few tiny hints noone else would have gotten pulled Denise right out of the working woodwork.
Hi denise.
Isn't it though...just a lovely day!
How are you this fine afternoon?
Denise,
Point well taken with that copied comment you posted.
:)
Denise?
How are those movies going, Brenda?
Point is, it is always fun to blog, to be someone else for a day, and forget your troubles, but you are getting lost within.
Im caught up now. lol
It is a wet, cold and cloudy day here also. Yet, it is a great one.
Coonhound, you are leaving as soon as I just got finished catching up on all the healthcare reading?
Coonhound and Nagarjuna, I have read all of the conversations this morning in here.
Where is goblinbee? Is it just us 3 in here right now? Me, Nag, and the beautiful Coonhound? I do believe so.
No I'm staying a bit longer D! Ots been rather enjoyable today.
And am glad to see you.
Denise, I think it's just you and me for now. I think Coonhound went to do some farming chores.
Strike my previous comment. :-)
Well as long as it's just the two of you.
Fill him with power "Denise".
Curiosity has got the best of me at this point.
Denise,
:)
I do not think I am seriously demented.
I read just a few days ago that an insurance company had denied a girl her transplant, even though the family was covered for it. By the time the family went through the right avenues, I think the media helped them, and the insurance company finally approved the operation, the girl had died 9 days earlier. So terrible.
Coonhound, were you ever going to email me? I wanted to ask you about crotcheting granny squares :) and I dont think the entire blog would be interested really. :) :) :) email me ok? thx
I dont need to prove anything Nag to anyone..
"I dont need to prove anything Nag to anyone.."
Did I say otherwise, Brenda?
Nagarjuna,
Well I am unsure who you were referring to here:
"So much for a certain someone having "proven" herself, Coonhound. Oh well."
who were you referring to? well i think it was me..
Again, Brenda, how is your movie watching going?
Brenda,
Your fine. We didn't refer to you as demented.
You're as pure as they come.
Coonhound,
what did I do? lol.. I have an inclination you dont think im a gem any longer..oh yeah and I was joking about the demented thing i forgot to put lol after.. i dont think you think im demented... or do you?? lol..
Oh, and brenda...
That is "exactly" why I called you a gem by the way.
I hope your having a good day Coonhound :)
I was referring to you, Brenda. But I wasn't suggesting that you HAD to prove anything. In retrospect, I'm not even sure what Coonhound meant by saying you had already proven yourself. But I responded to what I thought she meant by saying words to the effect that it didn't appear to me that you had proven yourself in the way I understood her to mean. But I wasn't suggesting that you were under any obligation to prove yourself in that way. If you think you are being fair to everyone here, and if you want to reinforce certain people's comments here, despite Coonhound's suggestion and my agreement that we not to do that, that is your prerogative. you are the captain of your own ship. :-)
Coonhound,
(hug) awwwwwwwwww. :) I like you too a lot. :)
I'm fine, brendastar.
And I think your fine too!
And yes, you are still a gem, my feelings on that are based on many many things.
no movies yet today I ran around this a.m. and me and the boyfriend had to have a chat...
I hope it was a pleasant "chat," Brenda. :-)
Oh ya know pleasant at times.. lol.
Nag,
Brenda was motivated by some hurt feelings that are completely different and separate from the ugliness found in others here.
What I was saying is that BS keeps or has kept that separate.
Get it?
:)
Well, I for one, hope that they figure out a way for everyone to have health coverage. It would be great to see the greedy insurance companies have to step back down to Earth and reality.
Coonhound, yes, I think I "get" what you're saying. Thanks for the clarification.
Awwww, where Goblinbee when I need her???
I checked on my lavander bed and two of my plants are dead...from pee pee I do believe!
But, Coonhound, and you probably suspected that there would be a "but," :-) I would be thrilled to see "hurt feelings" not get too far in the way of fairness for too long.
Oh well, such is life.
I'll fix it in the spring.
I considered everything you would expect b4 taking in another dog.
Except for the fact that males must mark their territory!
Lol!
Lol Coonhound I have a 6 month old Queensland Heeler
When the rat laughs at the cat, there is a hole. The rat has not power to call the cat to account. The rat does not go to sleep in the cat's bed
I was driving home today, from my nonexistent job that my email has been so informative on, and I was thinking about all of the abuse of taxpayers dollars that I see each day. And I was thinking that if I knew for a fact that I could make a huge dent in the wasted dollars by turning all of the persons in that I see using govt aid unnecessarily, I would do it.
Then I thought about all of the jobs that would be lost if I did turn everyone in. And my job also would be put at risk. And I thought about how I had to squash some of my own morals to take on my previous position as marketing rep.
And I wondered just how much money could be saved by the few or many persons that I could definitely point the finger at and stop their abuse of the system. And what would the govt end up doing with those extra dollars, if they did cut some of the abusers off of their services. And I wondered if I actually presented all that I know about all of the abuse I know about to the proper govt agency, would they even care to bother with any of it? Im not so sure.
Nagarjuna, please - I would be thrilled to see "hurt feelings" not get too far in the way of fairness for too long.
What do you know about hurt feelings. You have yet to recognize those you hurt. What a joke! BrendaStar.... BS right Denise? BrendaStar is standing right before you. You want to ask her about movies, you want to ask her about her discussion with her boyfriend. Why don't you dig down into that gut of your and find a true and heartfelt apology for criticizing her? Hurt Feelings. Please, you have no feelings.
Nag,
I hate to say this...
But whoever taught you that life is fair,
Lied to you!
Siwl
:)
The Human Brain starts working the moment you are born and never stops until you stand up to speak in blog
Printing money is merely taxation in another form. Rather than robbing citizens of their money, government robs their money of its purchasing power
Brenda,
I've never heard of a queensland heeler.
Tell about them.
I assume it is a herding dog?
Coonhound,
Queensland Blue Heeler and they are herding dogs they come from Australia.. An Australian cattle dog.
I really do not like our dog. I would like to dump him off somewhere. But if I do that, I will have to dump my boys with the dog. lol The dog stays I guess. I wonder if, when my boys leave, if any one of them are going to take doggy with them? I bet they leave me stuck with him forever. lol Actually, I wonder if my boys will ever leave? Im a grandmother, and I still have babies at home!! lol Its like a neverending story with kids living with me.
Word Terence!
see most people dont realize it is made out of thin air! then taxed and interest accrued right out of the gate.. vicious cycle..
"I hate to say this...
But whoever taught you that life is fair,
Lied to you!"
Nobody taught me that,Coonhound, and decades of life have progressively disabused me of any innocent notions that it is fair. But the irrepressibly quixotic idealist in me still labors to make it as fair as it can be, even if the effort is ineffectual or even counterproductive.
Today is my son's 14th birthday. I have no idea what to do for him, but he just walked through the door. I guess I have to just give him some money. We do not really like to go out to eat. Always the same places here. We are tired of the restaurants here.
Hopefully, my email address will "prove" that I lied about even having kids, before he gets his backpack put away and his clothes strewn throughout the house and returns to the front part of the house expecting some kind of sumpin sumpin.
And guess what, Nagarjuna. He just told me that he and his friends want to go bowling for his birthday.
"And guess what, Nagarjuna. He just told me that he and his friends want to go bowling for his birthday."
What better way to spend a birthday or ANY day? :-)
Omg.
Lol!
Nag...your response to me was too funny. You crack me up:)
Denise...
You hope that hopefully your email address "proves" that u don't have kids! Lol too funny
Oh! I needed those laughs.
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B,
I know of australian cattle dogs! Awesome dogs. Aren't they sometimes called "blue heelers", too?
They are very common here.
Coonhound,
Yes thats what we have is a queensland Blue Heeler named Ellie May :)
well and a cat and a guinea Pig and a fish...lol..
Three heroes of 9/11 die of cancer in five days
Stephanie Gaskell
NY DAILY NEWS
Tuesday, Oct 13th, 2009
A firefighter and two cops who worked at Ground Zero in the days and weeks after Sept. 11 have died of cancer in the past five days, the Daily News has learned.
Family members and advocates are blaming their deaths on toxins released into the air after the twin towers collapsed – and they’re urging Congress to act on a bill that would help pay for their medical care.
“Everybody is denying that this stuff is connected to 9/11, but it is,” said Stephen Grossman, whose son Robert died of cancer on Friday at the age of 44.
Robert Grossman was a police officer in Harlem who worked at Ground Zero for several weeks after Sept. 11.
“He never once said he was sorry he went down there,” Grossman said. “None of them walked away even though they all knew it was really dangerous.”
Please check out the FEEL GOOD FOUNDATION!!
The first responders of 9/11 need your help today!!!
Yes, Coonhound, there is something both tragic and comical about my sisyphean labors. :-) And, perhaps, nowhere is the tragicomedy more evident than here.
Once again we find another comment - "I admit that there's someone I'd love to slap the pi*s out of right now."
Don't answer the questions. Don't recognize your ego and foul treatment of others. Feel that need to beat the crap out of them for making you see. Where are the answers you wimp. So full of talk, threats and very little intelligence. You will never have intelligence because you have this overbearing need to feel like a God, feel like you are in charge. Feel like you can control.
That is why you want this pedophile's blog, isn't it? You admire Mr. and Mrs. Garrido, don't you?
Answer the questions, or are you able to?
Well, I asked my son if he wanted to go out to eat tonight. He said sure, he doesnt care. So I asked him where he wants to go, and again he doesnt care. I wish we had a vegan restaurant here, lol. Teach him a lesson about being more of a leader, instead of not caring about anything. lol
Denise, if he REALLY "doesn't care," take him to the cheapest fast food joint in town. :-)
B,
I would love to have a blue heeler, too. My husband and I have mentioned it in passing. But we would want it as a true working dog on the farm.
Plus, would you believe me if I told you that we can holler and get the cows to do as we want as far as where to go?
Yes, we can!
See you all later. Bye Denise, Goblinbee, Coonhound, and Brenda.
Coonhound,
I would recommend a Blue Heeler for anyone she is so smart and good and sweet i just lover her so much and yes I would believe that about your cows :) my dad had a ranch and youd be surprised how much animals can learn...even chickens :)e
This was in response to a comment made by a person named "innocent" that was searching for a certain person because she is now pregnant by the man and she, surprise surprise, cant find him. Its long, sorry. lol But this just aggravates me to no end and I couldnt stop writing. lol
With all "due" respect, why do women get knocked up by men that they apparently do not have enough information about to be able to find them later. Knowing the woman is the only one that CANT run and hide from the baby and all responsibilities that come with it. I just do not get it. You date a man, realize it isnt going to work out, and break up, and go your separate ways forever, like some relations normally occur. Oh, but no. Now there is a baby that is supposed to bring the other person back and keep some ties to that person forever. What happened to knowing a person and their character and their values and their intentions BEFORE getting intimate with them, let alone risking starting a "family". Whatever happened to starting a family, for that matter. Women having babies left and right these days remind me of sci fi movies where there are futuristic factories that produce children, for every reason other than the original purpose of giving birth to God's greatest gift. And dont even let me get started on paternity testing men after men to try to find your little bundle of joys "special male someone". Digging bodies up from six feet under to see if maybe, just maybe, that was the lucky person to be named as Daddy on the poor bastard baby's child support documents. Pathetic. How sad I am for the unborn child of some of the idiots I know that say they are pregnant with such a big "so proud of myself" look on their face. Do not worry, Poor babies, mommy will not be homeless amymore after you have grown for 6 mos and she can start receiving a welfare check. You are such a good Mommys little helper. You are a true hero. And yes, her life did begin the day you were born. Because before that day? She was homeless and had no income. Now, thanks to you, she can receive a check and some food stamps, and so many more benefits. Yay!! CONGRATS innocent. pfft
Bye Nagarjuna, have a great night.
I am leaving also. I guess we are having the chinese buffet tonight. I know that you guys do not have many buffet or smorgasborg restaurants, but here, they are everywhere. Even KFC and McDs has buffets. lol And drive up windows at the liquor stores. lol I couldnt believe it. And old beat up primered cadillacs and cars from the 80s with nothing more than tape on the door attempting to spell out TAXI. And that is what you will get if you need to get to walmart that is 7 blocks away, but first you will have to ride 2 miles to the north and 8 blocks to the east to pick up and drop off all of the other passengers on the Taxi list, before you arrive at your destination. When I first got here, we were taking a cab, and it ran out of gas!! The Wednesday newspaper is free and delivered to every house in town, and there is no paper that is dated "Saturday". But the Sunday paper comes out on Saturday. lol
Be back later. God bless you all.
Hey, sorry missed the goodbyes. Everyone at my house came in at the same time and demanded my attention. You all know how that goes!
Anyway, bye all.
Denise, that letter was horrible. Who ever wrote is clearly sick in the head.
"Pfft" is right!
nag & coonhound
Comparisons between our different health care systems, if you are interested
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8201711.stm
Hey Boogie, BrendaStar. You guys have to check out this Insider's intverview with Oprah the subject begins about half way through the video. I am really disappointed in Oprah. Really Really disappointed in who I thought she was.... listen to how she talks about this. Ughhhhh: http://www.theinsider.com/news/2823364_Oprah_Winfrey_on_Jaycee_Dugard_I_Want_That_Interview.
I looked for this because I heard she had a show on Jaycee Dugard today. Thank goodness it was Jaycee Dugard and Elizabeth Smart and not an interview with Jaycee Dugard.
My stomach is kind of sick to see her like this. The woman doesn't have enough fame and fortune that she would think to display Jaycee on her show. Now I hear that she will interview her "first" in December.
You know, I know we all want to hear from Jaycee, but there is something wrong with capitalizing on this, and I just am so disillusioned about Oprah now. Even if the report that Jaycee will receive one million dollars for the interview is true, I truly believe she could have held out for a lot more if she has to go through with it this way.
another ooopsie: Thank goodness it was ABOUT Jaycee Dugard and Elizabeth Smart and not an interview with Jaycee Dugard.
Freak thank you for the vid... "i want that interview!"
I bet you do Oprah I bet you do!
I have never seen her in this light before. Speechless.
Now I wonder if she gave anything to Jaycee and her children in their time of need. She used to do things like this. Sometimes to people who didn't even have need, she would surprise them by leaving a set of car keys to new cars under their seats.
This is so appalling in comparison. How much money does one need in order to stoop like this?
YouAreSuchAFreak,
I fount it irritating that she wants it so bad and she really didnt explain why she wanted it so bad.. and that bothered me. its like why to sensationalize it? I wish she would have taken the stand point that she did not care and that if Jaycee ever decided to talk that maybe she would be a person she would talk to..
BrendaStar, how did you find that article from the NY Times. Every time I try to read their paper, they want me to sign up. Are you signed up, do you have to pay for each article?
We get the NY Times at the office, but truly, who has the time to read it at work? I can bring them home later, as they keep them in the library, but then it is old news.
Freak,
Yes i am registered and it is free..it takes like two minutes to sign up for that sight.
I do not know the interviewer's name, but it was like she used Oprah's own little tricks into opening up about her plans. If you watch it again... she was getting her going about the brilliance of past interviews. More or less stroking her brilliance, had her all puffed up, and responding happily, then poof, the question, right out of the blue...Have you spoken to Jaycee Dugard.
I think she kind of got busted after all the denials and now should couldn't get out of it. Was probably embarrassed later.
The first time she ever called her producers to make sure they were on it... Yeah right!
Thanks, I will register tonight or tomorrow morning.
Finally, people thinking on their toes.
Should Sex Offenders Be Barred from Kid-Friendly Churches?
North Carolina is a proud member of the so-called Bible Belt of states that take their religion seriously. So some eyebrows were raised when James Nichols was arrested for attending church.
His offense? Nichols, a convicted sex offender, had chosen to worship at a church that has a nursery where kids play while their parents pray. Now Nichols, 31, who only recently got out of prison, is fighting back, challenging the legality of a new law that took effect in December prohibiting registered sex offenders from coming within 300 ft. — nearly a football field's length — of any facility devoted to the use, care or supervision of minors. (See pictures of John 3:16 in pop culture.)
As more states have adopted laws regulating where sex offenders can go, it was only a matter of time before the noble goal of protecting children butted heads with the sacrosanct First Amendment right to worship where and when you choose. Which takes precedence?
"This law makes it illegal to do things that are not wrong, like go to church," says Glen Gerding, Nichols' attorney. "When does the state stop interfering with a church's business? Will pastors be charged as an accessory for letting a known sex offender sit in a front-row pew and worship?"
Most states restrict sex offenders' movements in some way; North Carolina's law is hardly the strictest. In Georgia, registered sex offenders can't live or work within 1,000 ft. of places including schools, churches and child-care centers. Courts there have waded into questions of religion, ruling in favor of the right of offenders to partake in activities including volunteering in a church kitchen, attending adult Sunday School and singing in a church choir. (See pictures of a drive-in church.)
On behalf of Georgia's 16,000 registered sex offenders, the Atlanta-based Southern Center for Human Rights has sued the state over its residency and employment restrictions, including the ban on faith-based volunteering. "There are serious constitutional problems in banning someone from going to church, not to mention this runs counter to the church's mission of inclusion, hospitality and redemption," says Sara Totonchi, the center's associate director.
As soon as North Carolina's law went into effect in December, Katy Parker, legal director for the state's American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) chapter, started fielding calls. Offenders wanted to know if the law prevented them from going to church; pastors worried it would keep worshippers away.
Parker says the law was so vague that she couldn't offer advice, but she did put out the word to defense attorneys that should they wind up representing someone accused of breaking the law, the ACLU wanted to hear about it. Nichols' March apprehension is one of two religion-based arrests that Parker is aware of. (See pictures of spiritual healing around the world.)
"It's unbelievable that the N.C. state legislature and the people of North Carolina would not want someone to go to church for spiritual reasons and for rehabilitative reasons," says Parker.
But others think the ACLU is missing the point. The premise of the law is sound, says Laurence Tribe, a constitutional-law expert at Harvard. "If the moment you enter a church you don a cloak of immunity from the rule of law, then churches would become sanctuaries for crime," says Tribe. (Read "The Vatican Rethinks Laws on Abuse.")
Nichols, who was convicted of indecent liberties with a teenage girl (he was 20 at the time) and attempted second-degree rape, had prayed at Moncure Baptist Church in Moncure, N.C., where he was living, for several months before the police paid attention. Oddly enough, Nichols inadvertently outed himself, calling the cops about a fellow congregant — another offender — whom he witnessed fondling a 12-year-old girl. "I thought I was doing the right thing, and they hit me with charges," he says.
But he wasn't about to give up on God. Nichols credits religion with keeping him out of trouble. He had attended church sporadically before he went to prison; now he goes twice a day and three times on Sundays. "Church helps me to not live my old ways," says Nichols, who currently attends New Life Mission Church in Fayetteville, N.C., a hard-knock place that caters to ex-cons, former drug dealers and alcoholics.
Pastor Grace Kim welcomed Nichols to her church, which has no nursery on site and no children who attend the twice-daily services. "We want to try to give everyone a chance to rehabilitate, no matter their background." (See the top 10 religion stories of 2008.)
Only time — and judges' decisions — will determine whether the new law bars offenders from attending any church (where children might attend) or just those with child-care facilities. What is clear is that those who hammered out the small print of the legislation are sticking by it.
David Hoyle, the state senator who sponsored the bill, says it took two years to pass, partly because legal advisers took care to word it to withstand legal challenges.
The law is named for Jessica Lunsford, the Florida girl who was kidnapped and killed in 2005 by a convicted sex offender. Lunsford was born in Hoyle's district and attended school in the tiny town of Dallas, where Hoyle lives. He still talks to her father regularly; her cousin will serve as a senate page for Hoyle next year.
"I got e-mails calling me the anti-Christ and saying I'm going to hell, but we want to make the law just as strong as we can," says Hoyle. "We feel it is a good law. When a person takes advantage of a child, I don't worry about their constitutional rights."
Tara, thanks for the link on comparative health care systems. One thing I am curious about is dental care in the UK. The page you linked to said that most people in the UK have to pay for dental care. How much, on the average? There's a growing body of medical evidence linking good oral health to good overall health, and oral inflammation to serious systemic medical problems. So it seems to me that all health care systems should provide good dental coverage.
Church doesn't mean a building. It means two or more people discussing, sharing, learning the word of God and worshipping. I guess they will have to live amongst themselves until the law finally realizes they cannot release them among the public, and prevent them from filing suit over it.
Hi, Freak. Hope your day is going well.
Coonhound:"Denise, that letter was horrible. Who ever wrote is clearly sick in the head"
Well, my dear and beautiful amiga Coonhound. I guess I will have to agree with you partially on what you said. Because I AM THE AUTHOR OF THAT LETTER. haha
I am sorry that you did not like my story. It is just that I get so annoyed at women that get impregnated time after time, then cant find the father, because they barely knew him in the first place. And how many homeless girls I see running the streets, bumming cigarrettes and rides, having nothing. Then they get pregnant and TADOW!! they have an income now, and section 8, etc. because the welfare will help them get a place to stay so the baby will be cared for. But how well can a baby be cared for with 214 dollars a month?
I always told my daughter that if she ever got pregnant and tried to put my grandchild on welfare, I would beat the hecks out of her. I refuse to have my grandbaby come into this world just to struggle and not be able to have the things he or she wants because my daughter did not plan well enough before selfishly giving birth. Thankfully, my daughter took heed to my words, and she is conducting her adult life in a respectable and responsible manner. I am very proud of her. And of her boyfriend of 5 years.
Did you ever see the Maury paternity test show where Maury had DNA tested 22 men, one of which was a corpse that they had to dig up? And they still didnt find the father!! But this girl had to name ALL of the possible fathers, men that she had slept with, and came up with 22 different men. Thats horrible.
"I know that you guys do not have many buffet or smorgasborg restaurants,"
On the contrary, Denise, we are loaded with them here, and my wife and I love to eat in them. But I'm glad you have some too.
Denise, I would much prefer to see many of these girls receive abortions than give birth to babies that may very well end up being raised in poverty and crime-filled circumstances or languish in foster homes.
Another daily Dumb. I wonder where people come up with their beliefs what cops can and cannot do LOL:
Seeing as this misconception has come up in the past, it's only fair to spell it out in black and white: If you take off all of your clothes, THE POLICE CAN STILL ARREST YOU.
I wrote about a guy last month who unsuccessfully tried to avoid jail by wriggling out of his pants. Now 36-year-old Julia E. Laack from Sheboygan, WI has tried the ploy again, with about the same level of success.
After Ms. Laack was allegedly caught on a security camera last week shoplifting from a convenience store, police say they followed her home and attempted to handcuff her when she stripped down to her bra and panties and started screaming that they couldn't arrest a naked woman.
Sadly, this isn't true, as if it was, you'd probably see a lot more nude women walking into financial institutions wearing nothing but a pair of six-guns yelling "your money or your life!"
I'm getting a great idea for a screenplay. I see Tarantino directing.
After Laack stripped down, cops say she did something else that was unlikely to endear her to them; she kicked one of officers in the crotch. I have had some limited interaction with policemen, and while I can't say this for certain, I suspect that any hesitancy that they might have had about arresting a naked woman was dissolved at the exact moment her foot hit the groin.
Laack was charged with misdemeanor retail theft, felony battery of a peace officer, two counts of disorderly conduct and resisting an officer. If convicted on all counts, she could serve up to five years in jail.
Nagarjuna, when I left there, they only had one Smorgasborg. And it was on the North side.
And I would much rather see these girls be more responsible and less stupid in the first place, and not get pregnant. I do not agree with abortions. Not even if the baby will have a birth defect. But I can love any baby. I wish I was in a position to adopt more babies. I would take them all home and make them our family. And dont forget who my babysitter is, if and when I do adopt truckloads of kids. lol
Denise, actually, I don't know if there are that many smorgasboards here. I haven't eaten in any of those here. But there are a plethora of Asian buffets, unlike the part of the Bay Area I moved to Sac from.
As for abortion, I don't see anything terribly wrong with it if done early. Yes, it would be better if there were no unwanted pregnancies. But when there are, I say abortion is a viable alternative and should remain such. And I've never understood the religious objection to it on the grounds that it's harming the fetus. To my way of thinking, if abortion guarantees the fetal soul a one-way ticket to eternal bliss in heave, it's the best thing one could do for it.
LOL. "this isn't true, as if it was, you'd probably see a lot more nude women walking into financial institutions wearing nothing but a pair of six-guns yelling "your money or your life!""
I wonder where they would put the money YouAreSuchAFreak. To funny. Finally a good one again.
Hi BrendaStar. I heard one of the first responding K-9's on 9/11 died on Sunday to. 10 years old, but died of heart failure rather than this cancer. How old do German Shepherd's usually live?
Freak,
the bigger the breed i guess the shorter they live bit I have heard 12-15 years.
oops I meant Boogie that comment was for you..lol.. dugh. :) hello Boogie :)
Hi Boogie, sorry I forgot I drove us to work today. Hope Mike didn't keep you waiting long.
We are going to the HOA meeting afterall. Do you want to go with us?
Thanks, but no. The Gospel of John video came today. I think I am going to light the fireplace and just relax. Call me when you get back and let me know what they decided about the surveillance system and gate.
Will do. Don't seal it up when you are done. Maybe we can watch it the tomorrow or Thursday too. Bye.
Bye BrendaStar.
nag
re dental costs in UK - NHS versus private
This article may give you some idea of costs.
Not sure how up to date it is, and it would appear to be based on actual consumer submitted figures, as private treatment does vary in cost.
http://www.whatprice.co.uk/dentist/nhs-private-prices.html
Bye YouAreSuchAFreak have a good night.. :)
Hi, Boogie. How are you today?
Ok, denise, hah, I get it now.
(My mind is SLOW this afternoon/evening)
Thanks BrendaStar. I didn't even see who you wrote it to the first time. Well, I guess that means that at least one beings live was not effected by the crud in the air then. There were other police dogs that died in the past who served on 9/11. I wonder if they had cancer or if they died of natural causes.
There seems like a lot more action going on in here for a week day than there has been lately. Can someone explain this one to me. LOL... I just don't get it:
When the rat laughs at the cat, there is a hole. The rat has not power to call the cat to account. The rat does not go to sleep in the cat's bed
TheBoogieManHater, I have heard of animals getting sick also and getting cancer.
Tata,
Thank you for the articles, I will be reading them tonight.
Good night Nagarjuna. I am going to bed early tonight. I swear I think that the Chinese people put sleeping powder in their food on the buffet so that people will get sleepy fast, and too tired to eat any more. lol
Dios te bendiga. peace
nag & coonhound
Just one more link. This may be more up to date. Not sure how it compares with the previous article
http://www.dentalcentres.co.uk/dentist-fees-nhs.php
The building was noted to have all the steel beams coated in asbestos. I have worked on a number of asbestos litigation cases. Are they saying the cancer is Mesothelioma?
Boogie,
check this site out when you get a chance its interesting:
http://www.fealgoodfoundation.com/
also go this tab and look at all the sister links on this page they are very good and informative:
http://www.fealgoodfoundation.com/Links.html
An insurance company refused to insure a 4 month old baby because its weight was more than the average for a baby of his age. But the babys father worked at some television station. lol And the insurance company has changed its mind, and the baby now will receive insurance.
Thanks. Not sure how, but I already have that saved in my Favs.
Do you know if the cancer they are all coming up with is mesothelioma, or is the cancer something else. Another chemical causing the cancer or could it possibly be some sort of nuclear, or radiation type cancer. The type of cancer can tell you a lot about what happened also.
Tara,
Do you watch X factor or Britains got talent? I love them both.
Greetings everyone. Sorry to have missed out on so much today (I'm beginning to feel like Clark Kent, always missing out on the action).
I've been skimming the posts and have had lots of thoughts and responses, but I think I am just too far behind. So I'll just take it from here.
Except! I have a busy evening tonight and a hectic couple of days coming up, so I'm probably going to just get behind again.
But, ohmygod, some of you have been funny. I have had several good laughs and have had my socks charmed off, as usual.
To the blog!
I wish they had a search engine on some of these 9/11 sites.
Hello GoblinBee.
Boogie,
Read this article:
Researchers find immune system cancer in young 9/11 officers
By Alexi Friedman
August 09, 2009, 1:45PM
NEW YORK -- Researchers say a small number of young law enforcement officers who participated in the World Trade Center rescue and cleanup operation have developed an immune system cancer.
The numbers are tiny, and experts don't know whether there is any link between the illnesses and toxins released during the disaster.
AP Photo/Ted S. WarrenA 2004 photograph of the Ground Zero site at the World Trade Center in Lower Manhattan.
But doctors who coordinated the study, published Monday in the Journal of Occupational and Environmental Medicine, said people who worked at the site should continue to have their health monitored.
"What we are trying to get out there is: Be alert," said Dr. Jacqueline M. Moline, director of the World Trade Center Medical Monitoring and Treatment Program at the Mount Sinai School of Medicine.
The researchers looked at 28,252 emergency responders who spent time amid ground zero dust and found eight cases of multiple myeloma.
Those findings were no surprise. Multiple myeloma is the second most common hematological cancer in the U.S. after non-Hodgkin's lymphoma. Normally, researchers would expect to find about seven cases in a group as large as the one examined in the study.
However, four of the people who fell ill were under age 45, and multiple myeloma is thought to be more rare among people of that age. Under normal circumstances, researchers would have expected to find only one case of the disease in that age group.
Those four young multiple myeloma patients included one officer who was caught in the dust cloud on 9/11 and then spent months working long hours at the site. Another spent 111 days at the Staten Island landfill where the rubble was sifted. Two others had less exposure, working 12 and 14 days each in the pit and rubble pile.
The study said it is possible the monitoring program was simply more effective at finding the illness among people who wouldn't ordinarily be subjected to intense medical tracking.
Nevertheless, Moline said, "You shouldn't be seeing so many cases of myeloma in younger folks." The median age of diagnosis for that cancer in the general public is 71.
Several groups are studying New Yorkers exposed to toxic dust when the skyscrapers collapsed.
To date, no study, including the one published Monday, has established a link between that dust and cancer, said Lorna Thorpe, a deputy commissioner and epidemiologist at New York City's health department.
The timing of the four cases examined by the team at Mount Sinai also raised questions about whether they are related to their work at ground zero, she said.
Most research on multiple myeloma indicates that it usually takes 10 to 20 years for someone to develop that cancer after an environmental exposure to a carcinogen.
In these cases, the cancers were diagnosed in as little as three to four years after the attacks, suggesting that something else caused the
Group testifies about catastrophic health effects on 9/11 first responders
Tuesday, 09 June 2009 10:14
A non-profit group that seeks to assist 9/11 responders testified on June 8 at a hearing of the Assembly Homeland Security and State Preparedness Committee.
The 9/11 survivor group, the Feal Good Foundation, was invited by Assemblyman Dave Rible (R-Wall) to testify on behalf of the first responders who are sick and dying as a result of their heroic acts at Ground Zero.
"The Feal Good Foundation advocates for the heroes who selflessly put their lives on the line to save others on September 11th," said Rible.
"It is a great tragedy that these individuals are suffering from health conditions that were caused from their involvement at Ground Zero and we must work to address their needs."
Assemblyman Rible, Deputy Conference Leader, has previously met with the founder of the group and is working to bring attention to their cause. The foundation raises awareness of this issue, the services available to these individuals, and the need for insurance claims to be funded for those who are experiencing health related illnesses from the unsafe air quality that occurred in the weeks following September 11th, 2001.
John Feal, Founder/President of the Feal Good Foundation, requested that House Resolution 847 be passed to provide aid for insurance claims submitted by first responders. The Assembly Homeland Security and State Preparedness Committee plan to introduce legislation urging Congress to pass this resolution.
"The resolution would suggest that Congress help fund the health claims that have been filed by the rescue workers who are currently suffering as a result of their heroic actions," said Rible. "Studies show there may be a link between the air quality at Ground Zero and serious health problems. Hopefully today's hearing was successful in raising awareness and support for this critical issue."
A 2006 medical study of fire fighters reported that those personnel who inhaled Ground Zero air essentially lost 12 years of lung function.
Here is a site for you BrendaStar.
http://www.thecancerblog.com/2006/04/09/9-11-first-responders-suffering-with-cancer-sue-city/
It is not just mesothelioma they are dying from.
GEEEEEEEZZZZ
Study: 9/11 Lung Problems Persist Years Later
NEW YORK (AP) -- Researchers tracking Sept. 11 responders who became ill after working at the World Trade Center site found many had lung problems more than five years later in a study experts said proves persistent illness in people exposed to toxic dust caused by the twin towers' collapse.
John Montone reports.
The study by the Mount Sinai Medical Center's medical monitoring program examined more than 3,000 responders between 2004 and 2007, repeating exams conducted between the middle of 2002 and 2004.
Slightly more than 24 percent of the patients had abnormal lung function, the study found. In the earlier examinations, about 28 percent of the patients had similar results.
"We know people we are following are still sick. It's confirming what we've been seeing clinically,'' said Dr. Jacqueline M. Moline, who treats ailing responders and co-authored the study.
Experts have struggled since the 2001 attacks to find standards to define post-Sept. 11 illness and the time it would take to develop.
The city's medical examiner recently added to the official victims' list a man who died in October of cancer and lung disease, citing his exposure to the dust cloud that enveloped the city when the 110-story towers collapsed.
Mount Sinai's program has treated more than 26,000 people who were at the site or worked there in the days after Sept. 11, but the study's authors noted that participants asked to be enrolled in the program and may be more symptomatic than others who were exposed but didn't enroll.
But Norman H. Edelman, chief medical officer of the American Lung Association, said the study is "probably an important finding'' of long-term post-Sept. 11 illness.
"The most reasonable explanation is that there's a subset of people who for whatever reason were more sensitive to the stuff that was inhaled,'' Edelman said.
The researchers tracked 3,160 people who took follow-up exams between September 2004 and Dec. 26, 2007; all had previous exams at least 18 months earlier.
The patients all scored below normal on pulmonary function tests; they suffer from ailments ranging from asthma to reactive airway disease and shortness of breath, Moline said.
Some of the patients who reported reduced lung function also had gained weight, the study found, which Edelman said raised some questions about the causes of respiratory illness.
Moline said that most of the responders, primarily police officers, firefighters and construction workers, had been active in the careers that took them to the trade center site just after the attacks. She said that many reported gaining weight after they became ill and stopped working.
The study appears in Thursday's editions of CHEST, a journal published by the American College of Chest Physicians.
Thank you for that article Boogie I appreciate it :)
There are articles regarding other types of brain cancers and other rare cancers they are coming up with also.
I think this is where my research will start.
It is the least I could do BrendaStar ;)
Boogie here is a link with a bunch of other links references to the same issue:
tons of articles TONS
http://www.fealgoodfoundation.com/media.html
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