Friday, August 14, 2009

Something Brand New Has Taken Place!

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BrendaStar said...

Nag,

I dont play games if I wanted to call you a liar id call you one okay.. I was making a statement you took it offensively.. and felt the need to rip it apart.. and see what you see from it. I was saying that was weird and who would have the time and energy to do that. I was also making an observation by saying it sounded like your writing that was all.

BrendaStar said...

its really too bad you didnt apologize or make those apologies really I thought you were at least trying to be human.. so now that it all makes sense he really didnt apologize for anything. I am having a hard time differentiating between the real apologies and the fake ones..

Steve said...

"I dont play games if I wanted to call you a liar id call you one okay.. I was making a statement you took it offensively."

No, Brenda, I didn't take it "offensively." I took it bemusedly. But I also took it that you might really think (and may still, for all I know, think) that I posted those "apologies."

"I was saying that was weird and who would have the time and energy to do that."

We agree on that, Brenda. It WAS "weird." Even wierder were Cecil's antics immediately preceding Nagarjuna2's. :-)

"I was also making an observation by saying it sounded like your writing that was all."

I don't agree. My writing is vastly "superior" to his/hers. :-)

Anonymous said...

More wisdom in comments right coonhound?

Anonymous said...

Superior.... Control

BrendaStar said...

well I must bow now to your eminent superiority over others...

(yuk gag me)

Steve said...

"its really too bad you didnt apologize or make those apologies really I thought you were at least trying to be human.. so now that it all makes sense he really didnt apologize for anything. I am having a hard time differentiating between the real apologies and the fake ones.."

Brenda, I, the REAL Nagarjuna, HAVE apologized to you and others for some of the things I've said, those apologies were sincere, and I've acted accordingly after the fact. I said hurtful things to you the other day the likes of which I will never say to you again. But does that mean that I won't ever question or criticize you again even if I see reason to? No.

Anonymous said...

Oh, say you. Go look at your many apologies again. You only have to go as far as yesterday morning, as well as the morning before, yet something, could it be a lack of medication, brings the same barbaric monstrous comments out.

What I think everyone would rather see is being able to have a conversation without you and your followers ripping their conversation to shreds without cause, information or knowledge. Purely spite to those who do not fall on your every word is all I see to those you have indifference with.

Where do you learn that your words, your thoughts, are superior to anyone else who has anything else to say?

LucyInTheSky said...

nag said
"What is the point of all your copy and paste jobs, Boogie? Or are you incapable of doing much more than either posting other peoples' words or vilifying and libeling people here toward whom you've developed an irrational hatred?

October 14, 2009 8:52 AM
"
Come on, Boogie. Copy and paste another sh*tload of stuff that no one will probably read just to exhibit your resolute defiance of Nag Vader! :-)

October 14, 2009 8:56 AM"

"Come on, Boogie, don't keep us waiting. :-)

October 14, 2009 9:05 AM

Who got out of the wrong side of the bed this morning then (BIG GRIN)

Steve said...

Brenda, I don't know if you're ducking my previous post or if it just "slipped" your mind, but let me repost it here for you:

Brenda, did you read Samantha's sweet little "one thing" from Monday night? Are you prepared to be fair and admit that you misrepresented what happened that night?

BrendaStar said...

" I'm fine. I just threw up in my mouth a little bit!"~Dodgeball Kate V.

BrendaStar said...

I dont think I have misrepresented anything.

Steve said...

"Who got out of the wrong side of the bed this morning then (BIG GRIN)"

Tara, I got out of the right side of the bed this morning and saw the wonderful current picture of Jaycee Dugard, and I'm feeling great! :-)

LucyInTheSky said...

nag
Well your other "persona" certainly didn't

Steve said...

"I dont think I have misrepresented anything."

Do you REALLY mean that, Brenda? Are you THAT lacking in objectivity or unwilling to admit any mistake? Do I need to SHOW you how much you misrepresented things?

Don't make me do it, Brenda! :-)

Anonymous said...

Brenda. was the key word Dodgeball?

BrendaStar said...

Do it I triple dog dare you too.

Anonymous said...

Back to threats again huh Nagarjuna. I am waiting

BrendaStar said...

JeffSees,

it was a quote from the movie Dodgeball but I found that to be sufficient as well.. underlining dig..

oh Burn.......... :) on Nag.

Anonymous said...

I thought so Brenda. I was glad I didn't have to say repeat four times again when I saw that.

BrendaStar said...

Trust me even my momma would tell you im not the easiest victim..

bring it on.

BrendaStar said...

JeffSees,
LOL.. :)

BrendaStar said...

Trust me Nag you have shown me a lot, my misrepresentation of things is not one if them..

Anonymous said...

Hopefully the threat meant he was going to do some reading, rather than slapping.

Steve said...

Samantha wrote:
Oh for Pete's sake!!!! I couldn't believe how low it had gotten when they told me about this. Believe me, you will have many more officers watching over this site than are already from here on in.

Denise, I will forever have to pray to God that I can look past the stupidity of women when I encounter a rape victim now. How dare you! You met this guy on a blog and can form opinions like this and share such opinions with the public! Obviously he is of questionable nature, and you young lady are now also. Of course the Internet is the first place a pedophile looks for victims. Enticing them into conversation. They do have domineering, authoritative attitudes. What a little game player you are. I meet your kind every day. Maybe I will not have dig so deep for understanding of women afterall when I realize this.

This is exactly why Nancy Garrido should not be given any breaks at all. She met this guy in prison. She knew the possibilities, yet she was so lonely, she was able to overlook it all and do whatever it took to get her man.

Everybody, you do need to be very careful when you talk to complete strangers on the internet... whether in a chat room, in a blog, on the internet anywhere. Of course a rapist or pedophile is not going to tell you what they are doing. Please be careful.

BrendaStar, Boogie and YouAresuchaFreak told me you had been looking for me, and wanted to chat. When this crap stops, I will be back to discuss the case, and have more pleasurable conversation with you, but until then, there are enough people watching over the ridiculousness of these trouble makers, and I personally see enough crap that I do not need to deal with idiots like this. I appreciate all the kind words and I look forward to coming back to visit one day soon, but this is my off time, and I intend to have meaningful conversations rather than deal with more street scum like these two individuals.

October 11, 2009 7:18 PM

You represented it this way:

"now in regards to Samantha she came in briefly said like one thing then you accosted her!"

Anonymous said...

sorry Brenda... sorry me.... repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat

BrendaStar said...

JeffSees,

nope sadly ive been expecting this and it never happens... it will be more cut copy and pasting and him trying to prove his point that I am fawning over others and should bow down to him and his superiority over others and that his actions are okay and we should just be happy la la and my thoughts are of little value and I misrepresent myself and also i defend the pedophile callers, right Nag!

Anonymous said...

Whatever possessed me:

Blogger JeffSees said...

Hopefully the threat meant he was going to do some reading, rather than slapping.

October 14, 2009 1:26 PM

Steve said...

Brenda, if you read what Samantha wrote and what preceded it on the blog that night, and you read what you represented it as being, and you have an ounce of objectivity and integrity, surely you will see that you misrepresented what happened that night and admit to it.

You make it sound as though Samantha dropped in to say a few friendly words to her friends and I pounced on her for no reason whatsoever in the most vicious and disgusting way.

And that CLEARLY is NOT what happened. And if you can't see that and concede it, I think everyone present needs to keep that fully in mind when engaging you in future discussion about ANYTHING.

Anonymous said...

again avoiding what brought the visit

BrendaStar said...

Nagarjuna,

You should read back and see what you were saying about her prior to her returning...

BrendaStar said...

two wrongs dont make a right Nag.

Steve said...

"I misrepresent myself and also i defend the pedophile callers, right Nag!"

Brenda, you've just "misrepresented" again. I didn't say you defended the "pedophile callers." Indeed you did, as you claim, make a cursory comment or two to Boogie about how you didn't necessarily agree with what she was saying.

But what I AM saying is that you SUCK UP to the "pedophile callers."

Anonymous said...

saying about everyone who was not following him and attacking others with him

BrendaStar said...

Ive pleaded with you to drop things before I saw it heading in a bad direction to protect everyone involved did you heed my warning NO! or Coons NO! Ive asked you to drop things when i have picked up people's feelings were being hurt ect.. you have been just as out of control as anyone else your accusing just because you didnt call someone a pedophile doesnt mean you still havent hurt people also!

Anonymous said...

We knew the anger yelling would come out again didn't we. Beating a dead horse Nagarjuna. You should know when you do this, and cannot change the opinions and thoughts of others, you always become enraged. Control and lack of Control effects

Steve said...

"You should read back and see what you were saying about her prior to her returning..."

I did read back. What WAS I saying about her and when did I say it?

BrendaStar said...

"didn't necessarily agree with Boogie" !!!! seriously it is how you view things thats unreal to me because I defended you so much about it with Teresa with Boogie ect..

I am sorry I did.

Anonymous said...

Why? You are so good and copying and pasting, why do you not copy and paste what you were saying. Do you leave it to someone else to keep them in this discorded conversation?

Steve said...

"two wrongs dont make a right Nag."

It's ironic that you say this in the context of defending your misrepresentation of Samantha's conduct that night on the grounds that I somehow provoked her into it. :-)

BrendaStar said...

you had been making fun of her ALL week long! saying she was Boogie and Freaks cronie.. that would have pissed me off. I think she was pissed to read those things and I dont blame her just as I was when you were attacking me and I hadnt even logged on for hours and hours until the next day and I read a bunch of messages of you tearing me apart and I got very upset because it hurt my feelings and was hurtful! and you were also playing with others about her and that is what i think pissed her off.

Take a look at it..

Anonymous said...

What is ironic is that you just don't' get it... or is it that you do not want to get it for fear of losing face with your followers?

BrendaStar said...

Nagarjuna,

Nope as you have shown us your superior remember and you must be perfect too.. we should all take lessons from you...

Steve said...

"you have been just as out of control as anyone else your accusing just because you didnt call someone a pedophile doesnt mean you still havent hurt people also!"

Bullfeathers, Brenda! What have I ever said that compares in severity with someone repeatedly, falsely, and unapologetically accusing someone here of being a pedophile and claiming to have "evidence" she's working on to prove it and never coming forth with it when challenged to do so?

Anonymous said...

I am not a lady, but no.

BrendaStar said...

you just called me an ass kisser!!!

insults, judgments, degradation, hurtful statements, ect.. what makes you above anyone else? NOTHING!

Steve said...

"Nope as you have shown us your superior remember and you must be perfect too.. we should all take lessons from you..."

Brenda, I readily admit that I'm imperfect. Do you? Have you made ANY mistakes in your representations of events here? Have you misread comments I've made? Is it possible that you could be wrong about all your conspiracy theories regarding 9/11 and world government led by a cabal of "elitist snobs" such as Obama? Or are YOU the perfect one who has never erred and never will? :-)

BrendaStar said...

JeffSees,

LOL i figured by Jeff lol.. :)

i didnt ask you or include you in that statement because I know you and I are on the same page.

Anonymous said...

The name calling is meant to get people agitated. What better way to bring more argument. What better way to press you to call him names so he can have his followers gather around him to attack you. How can someone go on this long when the facts are truly before him. What is in this for Nagarjuna?

Anonymous said...

from superior to "I am ready to admit I'm imperfect".

What a better what to keep a little something recognizably humane to keep this conversation going.

BrendaStar said...

I have apologized to many when I have been wrong, jumped the gun, was intense, ect. or felt i had hurt or offended anyone. I unlike you am caring and I care deeply about how I effect someone else any my actions and how they effect others everything is a ripple effect.

Coonhound said...

Nag I tried to get you see that you really hurt her

:(

BrendaStar said...

Just say no to the H1N1 vaccine..

BrendaStar said...

Woman Blames Paralyzing Neurological Disease On Flu Shot

Woman Blames Paralyzing Neurological Disease On Flu Shot 141009shot2

25-year-old can barely walk or talk just two months after being vaccinated

Steve Watson
Infowars.net
Wednesday, Oct 14, 2009

A Virginia woman is adamant that a flu shot has caused her to contract a debilitating and irreversible neurological disease, while the CDC refuses to comment on her case.

25-year-old Desiree Jennings was a fit and healthy cheerleader up until two months ago when she got a seasonal flu shot.

Ten days after the shot she began experiencing flu like symptoms, followed by severe convulsions and black outs.

Now she can barely talk or walk and her life has all but been destroyed.

After seeing around 60 doctors, Jennings was eventually diagnosed with dystonia, a paralyzing neurological disorder that causes the muscles to relentlessly contract and spasm.

Bizarrely, increased physical activity causes her heart rate to decline, meaning she can run for hours, however, her resting heart rate is 90 and walking a few steps is exhausting and almost impossible.

There is no cure for the disease and it gets worse over time.

The causes of the disease are not yet fully understood, however, it is thought that physical trauma, infection, heavy metals poisoning or adverse reaction to drugs are possible triggers.

Jennings is certain that the flu shot caused the disease and has pledged to do all she can to warn others.

“Nothing else explains such a fast moving neurological damage. The medical hospitals ruled out everything, CAT scans normal, blood normal, MRI normal. The only thing that explains it is the shot caused the neurological damage.” she told WUSA News.

Watch a WUSA news report on the story

Anonymous said...

Brenda I just have to say,

You have a lot of class!

Looks like a perfect time to catch my lunch.

BrendaStar said...

Jeff,

Thank you. That was one of the nicest compliments I have ever received. sincerely.


I have always respected a women that was classy :)

although my potty mouth today was not very classy.. :) lol..

I hope you enjoy your lunch. I am taking off too in a bit. I will be back online probably later on tonight sometime.

Thank you again :)

denise said...

Brenda:"c'mon now thats unfair again I am not mad at Denise for not agreeing with me"

Brenda, I did not say I do not agree with you. Nor did I say I agree with you. I agree with you going on your feelings and ideas, and researching it to the fullest. I said I tried, but couldnt find the time, energy, or the interest in this particular time, to research with you. I wish I could, honestly. I also wish you the best of luck, and hopefully you will reach a conclusion one way or the other.

I know that when you wrote the above quoted sentence, you were not meaning anything derogatory towards me, I just wanted you to know that I am not disagreeing with you. peace

denise said...

Hello everyone.

Hey Nag amigo, I am planning on going to visit my family soon. And when I get there I hope to meet you, seriously. Ok? I am not scared, are you? lol

Anonymous said...

Brenda. All seriousness aside. I didn't miss this, but just cannot get passed it... It keeps ringing in my ears.

"we should just be happy la la".

LOL. I see a happy little girl skipping down the street oblivious to any troubles.

La la, la la la la

It is the point which upsets so many when the hear the things that brought them to this blog. Not all this friction. I hope all that have come here, can in some way contribute to giving this freedom back to the little girls and boys of this world.

Unknown said...

Phillip Garrido should receive the death penalty. I support Phillip Garrido getting the death pentaly for kidnapping and raping women and children and imprisoning women and children. I support Phillip Garrido being put to death as soon as possible by lethal injection, decapitation, gas chamber, electric chair, or even just a plain old firing squat. Phillip Garrido is mentally deranged and the lowest form of scum. Phillip Garrido is a scum sucker.

Anonymous said...

Greetings, all.

We've been back from the hospital an hour or so; my husband is now asleep on the couch. Supposedly the surgery went well. The surgeon said it took longer than usual because my husband's ear canal is narrow and curved, and was difficult to operate on. We had never been told that before. But he said he thinks it will be succesful.

Anyway, it was a long day; we're both a bit wrung out.

Steve said...

{"I am sorry I did."

Brenda, do you REALLY mean to say that you're "sorry" you "defended" me against false and scurrilous attacks? If so, are you suggesting that there must be something in it for you in order for you to do the right thing?

Steve said...

"I have apologized to many when I have been wrong, jumped the gun, was intense, ect. or felt i had hurt or offended anyone."

Maybe you have, Brenda. Could you cite an instance or two of when you've done that?

Steve said...

"I unlike you am caring and I care deeply about how I effect someone else any my actions and how they effect others everything is a ripple effect."

Who are YOU to say I don't care about how I "affect" others? I cared enough about you to stop calling you and your theories the insulting names I did. I apologized to you for calling you and them those names. And I meant every word of it. Why do you say I don't care? Does caring mean that I can't offer legitimate criticism? That I can't express opinions about people's beliefs or question them or argue against them if the people holding them don't like it?

Anonymous said...

mario carts: Here we goooo!

I hope Brenda sees the wisdom in ignoring you constant attempts for friction and hate.

Steve said...

"Nag I tried to get you see that you really hurt her"

I know I did, Coonhound. But what does that mean that I'm supposed to do now besides not repeating the conduct that had that unfortunate and regrettable effect?

Anonymous said...

Nagarjuna: "But what does that mean that I'm supposed to do".

It is plain and simple. Shut up and leave her alone. Get off her case already. Let it drop. Talk about your own thing, stop arguing with others have the right to feel and think. Stop causing complete caos!

Steve said...

"Woman Blames Paralyzing Neurological Disease On Flu Shot"

That's right, Brenda. We know beyond a shadow of a doubt that the flu shot caused the very rare Guillain Barre syndrome, and everybody should just "say no" to a vaccine that protects people against a disease that kills and makes life very unpleasant for vastly many more people than may remotely possibly contract Guillain Barre from it.

Makes perfect sense to me! :-)

Anonymous said...

and now a whole new can of worms aimed at offending.

Nagarjuna delights in hurting people.

Anonymous said...

Sense?

Anonymous said...

where?

denise said...

" JeffSees said...
One must ask themselves why anyone would be asked to "troll" this website Denise."

I dont typically ask myself questions that I really am not concerned about. Troll on if that is what you wish to do. Sad that this place for discussing serious matters has turned into a place similar to a Yahoo Chatroom, but hey, its internet, it was sure to happen.

mebbe we all nd 2 be ritin lyk dis now ya no den we dayum nare got it ryte. u down wit dat, i cn ryte lyk dis err day . sup wit dat u gd

denise said...

eh nagarjuna ma nicca, wot it do

coonhound wats gud amix q onda

goblinbee im stoked ta hear dat yo man gonna be iite.

q triste ja

Anonymous said...

wuh dat u sa. im dwn wit dat. nethng cul n kalm

denise said...

u da only 1 dat wud be n datz real

Anonymous said...

tank u

Anonymous said...

Good News huh BrendaStar!!!! Oprah and all her money did get to her for an hour long display, but rather People Magazine took a kinder approach and just shared a nice picture and a little bit of happiness direct from Jaycee.

Very nicely done People Magazine!

Anonymous said...

oh my... to fast. Oprah did "not" get to her first.

Anonymous said...

And the best part is, you know People is taking very good care of Jaycee and her two girls!

Anonymous said...

I thought this might be interesting for those who think there is a specific reason (or not) for using this blog. Websites and blogs are used for everything related to catching criminals and finding out what the public wants anymore.


(CNN) -- Loretta Chaisson Lewis, 28, was the first to die. She was reported missing on May 17, 2005. Three days later, fishermen found her body floating in a canal off Highway 26 in Jennings, Louisiana.
Victims, clockwise: Laconia Brown, 23, Whitnei Dubois, 26, Brittney Gary, 17 and Necole Guillory, 26.

Her father, Thomas Lewis, recently posted a plea on a Web site established in September by the Jefferson Davis Parish Sheriff's Office to draw attention to the killing of his daughter and the deaths of seven other women in the area. Police say the slayings may be linked.

"We love and miss her," the father's message said. "She was a loving mother, wife and daughter. If you have any information about her death, please let someone know."

There have been eight killings in four years in a small town that averages one homicide a year.

The victims' bodies were dumped on the outskirts of Jennings -- population 10,546 -- west of Lafayette, Louisiana. Townspeople are perplexed. They're asking themselves, "Is there a serial killer among us?"

That seems likely, authorities say.

"Based on an analysis of the investigation thus far, we believe the homicides may be linked to a common offender," Sheriff Ricky Edwards said in a recent news release.

The victims ranged in age from 17 to 30 and had similar lifestyles. They were drug abusers who in some cases resorted to prostitution, "trading sex for drugs," Edwards said. The throats of two of the victims were slit and the others died "from some sort of asphyxiation, according to the coroner's office," he said.

Anonymous said...

The bodies of all but two of the victims were either nude or partially nude, the sheriff said, but the coroner's office has not determined whether any were sexually assaulted.

One month after Lewis' death, the body of Ernestine Patterson, 30, was found in a drainage canal.

Two young women were killed in 2007, Kristen Lopez, 21, and Whitnei Dubois, 26.

Mike Dubois, Whitnei's brother, criticized the slow pace of the investigation.

"How can there not be anything?" he asked. "I want justice, not just for my family, but for the families of all the girls. We live in fear that someone else is going to get killed."

But Edwards said his department and investigators from the neighboring parishes of Acadia and Calcasieu, the state attorney general's office, the Louisiana State Police and the FBI are doing everything they can.

"This investigation is intense," he said. "We are following up on all leads. I assure you that we are working tirelessly to solve these murders."

In 2008, the bodies of three women were found: Laconia "Muggy" Brown, 23; Brittney Gary, the youngest victim at age 17; and Crystal Shay Zeno, 24.

Zeno's mother, Sarah Benoit, posted this message on the Sheriff Department's Web site:

"How beautiful you are. Your smile is forever a reminder of how special you are. It has almost been a year, but it seems like yesterday that you were taken from us. If anyone has any information on my daughter's death, please come forward. Without closure, not knowing who could have done this is very frightening. I pray every day that God will give the task force what they need to solve these cases."

In the most recent case, the body of Necole Guillory, 26, was found in Acadia Parish, off Interstate 10, in August. Edwards believes this represented a change in the killer's modus operandi. The bodies of all the previous victims were left on the side of smaller, rural roads.

"It's likely whoever's responsible changed behavior because of increased attention in the public and the media," he said.

Investigators think the offender has significant ties to Jefferson Davis Parish and is known to its residents, because he has demonstrated a strong familiarity with the area, Edwards said.

Of the victims, the sheriff said, "All of these young ladies had substance abuse problems and would go anywhere to fulfill their addictions." But he said he stopped referring to their "high-risk lifestyle" after the family of one of the victims expressed outrage and accused his department of not caring about the women.

"Jennings and Jefferson Davis Parish is hurting and grieving the deaths of eight women since 2005," the sheriff said. "The investigative team continues to pray for Loretta, Ernestine, Kristen, Whitnei, [Laconia] 'Muggy,' [Crystal] Shay, Brittney, and Necole and your families."

He encouraged anyone with information to visit the site, www.jeffdaviscrimes.net, or contact the task force at 337-824-6662.

In the meantime, the families continue to wait for news.

Benoit, Zeno's mother, has distributed more than 1,200 fliers in the community urging everyone to attend an October 17 prayer vigil at Lake Arthur.

"It's called Community United in Prayer," she said. "Everyone is invited to pray for the victims and their families. It's a healing for our community."

"We try to shoulder each other up," said Dubois, Whitnei's brother. "It's not the time to be quiet. It's time to say 'enough is enough.' "

Anonymous said...

:)

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

Thank goodness this man is caught. When this was in the news a few weeks ago, they did not have the suspect yet, did they? If not, here is one good reason for negative news... they have the creep now!!!!

Jennifer Schuett didn't know it, but the DNA of the man suspected of attacking her in 1990 was sitting in an FBI database for at least 13 years, just waiting for a connection to be made.
Dennis Earl Bradford, a 40-year-old welder, was arrested after DNA allegedly tied him to the crime.

She was 8 and had been abducted from her room, raped and left for dead in a field. All she knew about the man who kidnapped her was that he called himself Dennis.

His DNA was found on underwear left behind, but the sample was too small at the time to get a match.

Schuett helped police create a detailed sketch of the man who attacked her.

CNN normally does not identify victims of sexual assaults. But Schuett decided to go public with her story and her name to increase the chances of finding and prosecuting her attacker.

For nearly two decades, there were no answers.

But with technological advances, authorities were able to retest the small sample of the attacker's DNA last year. With those results, a suspect would be found -- and it would all be because he was convicted for an eerily similar crime.

Dennis Earl Bradford, 40, was arrested Tuesday in connection with Schuett's abduction and attempted murder. Authorities believe he was the man who kidnapped Schuett from her Dickinson, Texas, home, choked her, dragged her from his car and slashed her throat in 1990. Video Watch the sketch artist's memories of Schuett at 8 »

Years later, Bradford was arrested for a similar crime, court records show.

On April 16, 1996, Bradford walked into Gator's Bar in Garland County, Arkansas, and offered to buy a woman a beer.

They played pool for a while until she was ready to leave, and he offered her a ride. He wanted to spend more time with her, so he asked if she wanted to ride around in his car for a while and listen to an Ozzy Osbourne tape, the woman told police, the documents show.

About 20 to 30 minutes later, he said he wanted to show her some property. According to the court documents, he stopped the car, began choking her and beat her in the head.

Anonymous said...

"He dragged her from the car into the woods and threw her to the ground," according to the court documents. They go on to say that he beat her and choked her again, at one point knocking her unconscious, she told police. He stripped her naked and put a knife to her throat.

Bradford told her "he was going to kill her, that he was going to put the knife in her eye and was going to cut her jugular," court documents show.

Then, according to the documents, he raped her.

He ordered her to stay still, gave her a towel to clean herself up and took her to a nearby creek and helped her finish bathing, court documents said.

As they got back into the car and drove toward the Oaklawn Race Track, he said again that he had planned to kill her, the court documents show.

This time, she asked him why he didn't. She told police he said he got scared.

Bradford began apologizing repeatedly, the victim said, until he stopped the car at the track and let her out.

That's when she turned and saw his license plate as he drove off into the distance.

When Bradford was arrested in 1996, police took his DNA, which was entered into the FBI database. It remained there for years, until technology would catch up.

A Garland County Circuit Court jury found Bradford guilty of kidnapping but was not able reach a verdict on the rape charges. Arkansas corrections officials said Bradford entered prison in march 1997, facing a 12-year-sentence, and was paroled in February 2000.

In March 2008, in Houston, Texas, FBI Special Agent Richard Rennison, Dickinson Police Department Detective Tim Cromie and a Galveston sheriff's deputy met to discuss Schuett's 1990 case.

Cromie asked if the FBI could see if new methods of DNA testing might help find a match for Schuett's attacker.

In July 2008, the evidence from Schuett's attack was sent for analysis, and on September 22, 2009, authorities say they received word there was a match. The FBI lab informed them that the DNA in the attacker's underwear matched Bradford's DNA profile.

Bradford was arrested Tuesday morning on his way to work in Arkansas. He appeared in court in Little Rock on Wednesday and waived extradition to Texas. Attorney Mark Jesse, who represented Bradford at the hearing, said plans were in place to fly him to Texas later in the day. Earlier, the FBI said Bradford would arrive in Texas as early as Wednesday night and no later than Friday.
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Though it may have taken 19 years to find a suspect, Schuett's story came full circle this week with Bradford's arrest.

"I hope that my case will remain as a reminder to all victims of violent crime to never give up hope ... " she said. "With determination and by using your voice to speak out, you are capable of anything."

denise said...

Freak, I am going to ask you this with the utmost sincerity. No offense intended in any manner.

"I thought this might be interesting for those who think there is a specific reason (or not) for using this blog. Websites and blogs are used for everything related to catching criminals and finding out what the public wants anymore. "

Please tell me how that passage would be interesting for those who think there is a specific reason for using this blog. And also, please explain to me what you mean by it.

Honestly, I am trying to understand the meaning you are trying to get across. If you cannot explain it, I can ask others for their explanations.

Anonymous said...

LOL, I wish JeffSees.

I saw that this morning on the news. I think Drew Carey is just ringing up publicity, but if he gives a million dollars to charity to get it.... sounds good to me.

The guy that has that website looks suspiciously very similar to Drew... even though somehow, although they laughingly denied it, they had the same glasses... same size, and on the other guy they were way to big. Very comical.

Eric Vaughan said...

Getting back on topic, people, so did you ever take the godbox to the track or bingo hall?

Anonymous said...

Denise. I do not feel like getting into a long drawn out debate.

Some people have posted what should and should not be posted in this blog. I have an opinion. I posted it.

Steve said...

Goblinbee, I'm glad your husband's surgery seems to have gone reasonably well, and I hope he has no trouble now or in the future with his prosthesis and that it greatly improves his hearing. Please keep us posted on his progress.

Anonymous said...

Erik. LOL

He took it to church... God told him to go to his parole office with the girls!!!!

Anonymous said...

Eeeewwweee BrendaStar, are you around?

Steve said...

It sure seems as though Freak and Boogie almost relish posting one lurid rape story after another in all their repulsive detail and then figuratively shaking their heads at the evil and awful depravity of it all. :-) If I didn't know better, and I confess that I don't, one might suspect that they actually "get off" on them.

Got another one to regale us with?

denise said...

Thats fine, Freak. I just really didnt understand what the girls that died while out on the streets, perhaps searching for drugs or drug money, had to do with using this blog. And the second story told me that it isnt very wise to leave the bar with some guy you only knew from a few games of pool, more than the safety or not of a blog.

I was honestly thinking that I must have missed something and was misinterpreting the understanding that I received from it. And was hoping you could clarify for me. But I understand about not wanting to get into debates. No problem.

Anonymous said...

At least I have something to say... a subject worthy of discussing. All you can do is argue.

JeffSees has been begging you to talk. Why not him? hmmmm.

Anonymous said...

Here we gooooo. Again.

Nagarjuna and his followers at it again. Anything for friction, nothing to say, just criticism. I say just ignore them. Let them talk to me. I'll be around when they are ready.

Anonymous said...

Boogie: I read your posts this a.m. I do think you have a point. I will come over when you get home and look at some of this stuff with you. Amazing. Call me when you get in. Catching up on the news.

denise said...

Freak, it is a subject worthy of speaking about. You are right by that. And if that was your point, that was all I was really asking you.

Like I said, I was not understanding your purpose in posting it, along with your first paragraph explaining that it was to show persons how blogs were used to catch criminals. I thought maybe I was missing something, because I didnt see in your stories where they used blogs to apprehend anyone. I apologize if I misunderstood your reasononing.

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Anonymous said...

LOL, I am home now. Are you sure you don't want to watch The Gospel of John with me instead? It is 3 hours long though. Anyway, I am here.

Agreed Jeffsees. LOL. All yours :)

Anonymous said...

Boogie.... be there in a few minutes.

Denise, if that is all you meant, than I am sorry, but you know, I am not going to walk into anymore traps, and I am sure you can read as well as I have about what is going on in this blog. I simply don't want to discuss fruitless material that has been discussed, or attempted to be discussed over and over and over again. To the point it seems like "someone" is simply only trying to get some people upset. Makes absolutely no sense.

denise said...

May I ask where anyone has begged me to talk? Once again, I have to say, I might have missed something.

Anonymous said...

That was left for Nag.

Anonymous said...

Bye

Anonymous said...

BrendaStar. We are having intermittent trouble with the server. But will check in occasionally to see if you have any info on my messages this a.m. Take care. Don't let this crud today get you down. :)

denise said...

I respect that, Freak. And I agree with you about not wanting to argue, and I do not wish to argue either.

Have a good evening. peace

denise said...

Where the wild things are!! My all time favorite book ever!! Ten years ago, my sons dentist office let me take their waiting room copy of it home with me. Oh my gosh, I treasure that beat up book so much. lol The movie doesnt look like something that I want to watch.

I cant wait for New Moon to come out next month though. Anyhow, I am going to bed. Even though nobody is even here tonight, just wanted to say Good night to everyone. peace and God bless!

Steve said...

"At least I have something to say... a subject worthy of discussing. All you can do is argue."

What substantive topic would you like to discuss with me, Freak?

denise said...

Nagarjuna, I have a substantive topic for you to review. I regret that it will be fuel for your fire, but do a google search on Edwin Chandler please.

denise said...

I am wondering what the circumstances were that even brought him to the police's attn in the first place. And I would love to look at their so-called evidence that got him convicted by a jury.

First of all, there was something that made the police believe he was a suspect. Then the evidence was presented to a jury, and they claimed he was guilty. Now, they have a bottle from 16 years ago that has a fingerprint on it. And not one, but two witnesses have decided to come forward at the same time.

Steve said...

"Hey Nag amigo, I am planning on going to visit my family soon. And when I get there I hope to meet you, seriously. Ok? I am not scared, are you? lol"

"Denise, you are welcome here any time," said the spider to the fly. Just kidding :-)

I'd be delighted to meet you, mi amiga.

(And by the way, I offer the same invitation to Boogie and Freak, IF they promise to leave the handcuffs in their bedroom and the butcher knife in the kitchen drawer. :-))

Anonymous said...

What, you think you scared Brenda away, so now you will start on Boogie and Freak. This control for King of the Garrido blog has gone a little to far do you not think?

denise said...

Nagarjuna, are you going to say anything about the chandler guy? Im waiting for my daughter to come pick my baby boy up right now, then Im going to bed. I was waiting to see if you were going to write anything about him, before I go to sleep. Im really tired.

denise said...

I am wondering why the guy that they recently arrested as the "real" killer looks so young. But the "wrongly convicted" man is much older. I need to find out how old the new suspect is. Because this happened 16 years ago, and the new suspect looks like he is young. Maybe prison made the other guy old beyond his years. I dont know.

Anonymous said...

Back from the dead with a sunny smile: Jaycee's happy end
I think the end of this report is as beautiful as Jaycee:


By Guy Adams in Los Angeles

The hair is darker and her face appears to have filled out a touch during the 18 years she spent in captivity, but Jaycee Lee Dugard's timid smile and those piercing blue eyes are more or less the same.

Two months after her rescue shocked the world, the former child kidnap victim has taken a tentative step into the limelight: allowing a photograph of her as an adult to be made public for the first time yesterday.

The image, which will appear on the cover of this week's edition of the US gossip magazine People, will be accompanied by an apparently upbeat interview in which Ms Dugard talks about her abduction and tells of her joy at being reunited with her mother and sister.

"I'm so happy to be back with my family," she says, in a short excerpt which was released in advance of publication. "Nothing is more important than the unconditional love and support I have from them."

Ms Dugard, now a 29-year-old brunette, displays no obvious signs of the trauma she must have endured during her years imprisoned in a backyard compound at the home of convicted rapist Philip Garrido in Antioch, a small town an hour's drive east of San Francisco.

She was interviewed at the secure location in northern California where she has been staying under police guard, with her immediate family, since shortly after she was rescued in August. Social workers and a team of counsellors are helping Dugards to come to terms with sudden end of their long ordeal, which began when Jaycee was abducted from a bus stop near Lake Tahoe at the age of 11.

A family spokesman, Erika Schulte, said Ms Dugard seemed to have put behind her the years of abuse she suffered at the hands of Garrido and his wife, Nancy. She was held as a sex slave for many years and had two daughters by her captor: Angel, now 15, and Starlit, 11.

Anonymous said...

"She just radiates," said Ms Schulte. "I was thrilled when I saw the photo because it was the perfect representation of what she looks like. It speaks to her joy with being with her family now and looking forward to her new life.

"She is a grown-up, she is a mother and a sister and a daughter – and it's amazing to just be in the presence of all of that. And if you walked into the room and didn't know the circumstances, it would seem, I think, like any other family."

Ms Dugard has apparently formed a close bond with both her mother, Terry, and her sister, Shanya. They have been spending time riding horses and cooking – Jaycee is said to be fond of knocking up a rice, beans and salsa dish for dinner – and they are considering collaborating on a memoir.

Ms Schulte said she was not sure if Angel and Starlit had been fully informed of the ugly details of what happened to their mother, who gave birth to her first child at the age of 14, without the benefit of medical attention. However, they are said to have become close to their newly-discovered grandmother.

Although People paid an undisclosed sum for the exclusive interview, few are likely to begrudge Ms Dugard an opportunity to gain financial security. She is said to be anxious to protect her daughters' privacy, and insisted that only the backs of their heads could feature in the photo-shoot.

"She's very protective and very private right now," said Peter Castro, the deputy managing editor of People. "Of course, there's a contradiction: if she is so private, how could she be on the cover of People magazine?

"But she wants to lift the veil on the situation. She wants the world to know that she's doing OK and that she's in a very good place right now.

"This is a story that is really about redemption. Somebody described it as 'giddy'... I don't think she is suffering any kind of deep-seated depression.

"She is just so happy to be with her mum after 18 years. She missed 18 Christmases, 18 Thanksgivings and 18 birthdays with her family."

Ms Dugard is due to make at least one more public appearance in the not-too-distant future: she has agreed to give evidence against Phillip and Nancy Garrido at their forthcoming trial for kidnap and child rape.

Anonymous said...

Sorry, I thought I deleted this man's rather tasteless caption

Anonymous said...

BrendaStar: We searched and searched and searched for more information on Thermite, and whether it would cause cancer, but could not find anything. Amazingly enough, there are several websites out there that teach people how to make Thermite. The only place that thermite and cancer came together in search terms was on 9/11 sites, they were not scientific sites, but blogs and boards where 9/11 victims and/or their families were discussing and trying to determine if their cancers could have been related to the Thermite found at the site of the towers.

It doesn't mean that it does not cause cancer. It is a chemical, but there is just no information out there, likely just because there has never been a situation like this before.

I have to sit and make a list of the different types of cancers that have inflicted these victims, and then research causes for each, but so far, the Multiple Myeloma, seems to be the most noted in all the articles. This cancer is caused by chemicals. Every other cause sought is always unknown. It appears that if it wasn't caused by chemicals, they don't know enough about it to determine what, if anything, unless it was chemicals, then they can say they know. Or, if someone got Multiple Myeloma, and if they couldn't remember being around chemicals, it has always been unknown how they got it. But if they knew they were subjected to the chemicals, the cause was noted to be these chemicals.

I looked at and will also look at again the Notes/Whys of unanswered questions you posted. But in the meantime, I just want to stay on track with this.

Do you know of any FBI or CIA public informants speaking of chemicals being on any of these planes? I hear many of them have spoke up and told the public things because they are very angry at the way things happened, and/or they were blamed or railroaded/fired/demoted. Did any of them talk about chemical warfare threats within the terrorists threats for the weeks and months before 9/11, and/or information after 9/11? And if so, who so we can research that.

Anonymous said...

Part of that statement was wrong. Mesothelioma is also a common cancer among the victims, but that is caused by Asbestos dust, and this one I have absolutely no idea how our government can be so brazen to deny full and immediate health care coverage for. They cannot deny it coated the steel beams. That cannot deny that it turned to dust. And, they cannot deny recorded statements that they said the air quality was good, go to work.

denise said...

I was waiting for all of the bickering to die down so we could finally pick up on serious issues. And through it all, Brendas topic has been nonstop. Some different issues and articles have been presented here, and died out fast. Brendas hasnt.

I realized that when Brenda asked that we all help in her research, I was spending most of my time in here discussing easier topics that seemed to have short and easy answers. This blog goes at a fast pace. I do not click on many of the links in here, because I already know I will have to spend much time trying to get caught up again with the current conversations.

This morning, all is quiet. The arguments seem to have died out due to everyone deciding to ignore each other. All little topics brought up have blown away like dust in the wind. But one topic stands strong. Brendas topic, still here. I have decided that I now have the time to start looking at videos again of the evidence of both sides of the 9/11 tragedy. I am going to take the time to concentrate on and read links that Brenda gives. Look at the videos. Take the time to discuss my ideas that I will have on the topic.

I am going to skim over all other stories, as they seem to come and go so fast anyhow in here. And focus on Brendas topic.

Anyhow, what I am saying is that maybe we can all dedicate at least a couple of days just to Brendas topic. I feel we are like family in here. And Brenda is one of our own, and she deserves our attn to what is important to her. The same as I have to drag myself to, and sit through boring Choir concerts for one son, and agonizing Band Concerts for my other son. So shall I pay attention to what matters so much to Brenda. I am a Mommy, and a damn good one. I am going to spend time with our Brenda, and look at all 5000 pages of her coloring book, and I am going to show her that Yes, to me, she matters. And what is important to her, is also important to me.

denise said...

Have a great day everyone. I am an hour late for work, and an hour early. I know that doesnt make sense, and its not supposed to. haha

God bless you guys!! peace

Steve said...

NEVER FEAR. THE NAG IS HERE!!!!

Good morning, everyone. Sorry I missed you this morning, Denise. I have some things to say about your suggestion that we focus exclusively for a couple of days on Brenda's conspiracy theories, but I'll get to that after I follow up on something with Brenda from our discussion yesterday.

For I would respectfully suggest that if Brenda is unable to acknowledge her blatant misrepresentation in a comment she made yesterday or even to understand the nature of her misrepresentation, she has lost virtually all credibility and doesn't deserve our attention or time discussing her dubious theories.

Anyway, have a wonderful day at your "non-existent job," :-) Denise, and we'll all see you later.

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Anonymous said...

Good morning! Denise and Nag, thanks for the well wishes concerning my husband. His recovery is going well so far; we are thrilled.

I was checking back through some of the posts that have been written in the last few days--skimming over most, but slowing down to read the people I like to hear from. I won't comment on them all, but, Coonhound, I did want to comment on this:

"I thought the story was great. I was happy to read something "real" and touching. And am so proud for you and yours that you can come together like that as a family."

That was so nice of you to say, Coonhound. My sister who is spearheading the project is one of the most thoughtful people I know.

And, Nagarjuna, it meant something to me when you referred to me as sweet and fair-minded. Those are adjectives I would want to live up to.

Denise, as usual, you make me laugh out loud. Your timing and delivery are something. Agonizing band concerts!

Steve said...

Brenda, to follow up on something else we discussed yesterday, I have a simple question for you. You said you respect those who respect you. I asked if you respect those who figuratively defecate on others just so long as they respect you.

Well, I never got a clear answer from you on that. So let me ask you this: DO YOU RESPECT BOOGIE?

Anonymous said...

Still at your cruel ways huh.

Anonymous said...

Researchers have only very recently begun to consider the effects of psychological abuse, focusing particularly on female victims. Many feminists, who suggest that the motive behind male-perpetrated violence against women is oppression and control, would surely suggest that control is the motive behind psychological abuse as well. This paper explores the possibility that it is the underlying control behind physical and psychological abuse that has the most negative effect on not only women, but on men as well. In a society where men are historically expected to be dominant over women, it may be particularly detrimental to a man’s mental well-being to be dominated – physically or psychologically – by a woman. The findings suggest that for both men and women, coercive control seems to have the most harmful effect in terms of depression compared to verbal and physical aggression. Not only does coercive control have the strongest bivariate relationship with depression, but it also appears that the effects of verbal aggression and physical abuse are both mediated by coercive control.

Anonymous said...

You are invited to come and take this test Nagarjuna.

Maybe it can enlighten you and unburden your load.

http://psychologytoday.psychtests.com/tests/arguing_style_r_access.html

Anonymous said...

Are You Too Angry?

There are psychological tests that measure the intensity of angry feelings, how prone to anger you are, and how well you handle it. But chances are good that if you do have a problem with anger, you already know it. If you find yourself acting in ways that seem out of control and frightening, you might need help finding better ways to deal with this emotion.

Nagarjuna. Do your many apologies show your knowledge that you are very angry and have recognized this on many occasions with your apologies. Can you look at this blog, read through it. Can you not see how you are out of control and to a frightening point.

So what are you going to do about. Sink into that never ending well like Garrido did, or pick yourself up, dust yourself off and move forward.

You cannot own or manage others. It is not your right. Try letting it go.

BrendaStar said...

NAG,

"she has lost virtually all credibility and doesn't deserve our attention or time discussing her dubious theories."

NOW HE IS TRYING TO TURN PEOPLE AGAINST ME!!!! NICE.. YOUR A WACKO NAG.. LEAVE ME ALONE I NO LONGER RESPECT YOU AN DESIRE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH YOU ANY LONGER! YOU ARE DING WHAT YOU DODO TO ME THE OTHER DAY!!! THERE IS 83 COMMENTS IN MY INBOX I HAVE NOT LOGGED ON MY COMPUTER SINCE YESTERDAY AFTERNOON WHEN I TOLD JEFFSEES TO HAVE A GOOD LUNCH..

AND I AM SORRY THAT YOU ALL (YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE NOW) FEEL COMPELLED TO SUPPORT THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOR .. ITS HURTFUL..

BrendaStar said...

i am sorry to everyone besides nag i lost it for a second there! and i apologize!!!

Coonhound said...

Goodmorning Nagarjuna.

(I had a strong feeling that we had some over the top radical feminists in here) ugh.

Coonhound said...

B*,

Nag can't turn anyone against you. Don't fret on that:)

Goodmorning our lil Gem!

BrendaStar said...

Coonhound,

Good morning :) thank you, no its just the fact hes trying to get people to even not discuss things with me.. its just like trying to get people in his corner and turn them against another individual..pick,pick,pick.... until they explode!!!

Anonymous said...

BrendaStar. This is a man who refuses to let it go.

I definitely do not, in any way, want to appear to control as he has done.... but if I may make a suggestion.

As Goblinbee has made the suggestion that he only reads who he is interested in, I think that they same my be useful to you. Why time and again allow this Nagarjuna person take his digs at you and upset you. He obviously has some deep seeded issues. His only intent for days has been to instill argument, that will not change.

Anonymous said...

"(I had a strong feeling that we had some over the top radical feminists in here) ugh."

Coonhound, I am so curious about this. I haven't noticed any feminist theory coming up, but I may have missed it. I would be so interested!

And good morning!

BrendaStar said...

JeffSees,

Point well taken thank you...

Steve said...

Brenda, you don't respect me, but do you respect Boogie?

Steve said...

"YOU ARE DING WHAT YOU DODO TO ME THE OTHER DAY!!!"

How so, Brenda? I don't think I am doing anything of the kind.

Anonymous said...

JeffSees, I took the psychology test you linked to. One thing that bothered me was the wording of the questions. It was all about "fighting, confronting, arguing," as if all discussions with our partners have to be fights.

Anonymous said...

Others have had constructive writing posted.

Steve said...

Brenda, yesterday you stated the following at 10:39 AM PDT: "now in regards to Samantha she came in briefly said like one thing then you accosted her!"

I subsequently characterized this statement thusly: "the lovely, innocent little Samantha delicately popping in to say sweet things to her friends only to have the big, bad Nagarjuna jump all over her for no reason whatsoever." Isn't this a pretty accurate characterization of your meaning, Brenda? Can we agree on this, or would you like to correct my characterization? You didn't correct it yesterday, so I'll proceed for now on the assumption that it IS an accurate characterization of your meaning.

I replied that this is not at all what happened that night. I said that this was a blatant misrepresentation of what happened. I reposted what Samantha said. I explained that some of us were having a substantive discussion prior to her bursting in on the scene and delivering a scathing diatribe. I asked you to acknowledge that you misrepresented the facts. But you refused to do so. You said that you hadn't misrepresented anything. Then you proceeded to excuse Samantha's behavior by stating: "You should read back and see what you were saying about her prior to her returning." I asked you to elaborate. You replied: "you had been making fun of her ALL week long! saying she was Boogie and Freaks cronie.. that would have pissed me off. I think she was pissed to read those things and I dont blame her..."

Brenda, let's get clear on something. You are mixing up two issues. The first is, WAS YOUR REPRESENTATION OF WHAT HAPPENED THAT NIGHT ACCURATE? The second issue is, WAS SAMANTHA JUSTIFIED IN SAYING WHAT SHE DID? Do you understand, Brenda, that you could have misrepresented the nature of Samantha's behavior even if she were justified in behaving the way she did? And the fact is, you DID misrepresent her behavior. You said "she came in briefly and said like one thing" before I "accosted" her. You imply that she just wanted to say a few nice words to her friends before departing for the evening and I went after her for no reason. Well, this is a distillation of the "one thing" she DID, in fact, say: She: (1) Called Denise "stupid"; (2) Said I am "obviously of questionable nature"; (3) Said that Denise is also of questionable nature; (4) Implied that I'm a "domineering, authoritative" pedophile trolling the blog for victims by "enticing them into conversation"; (5) Called Denise "a little game player"; (6) Said that Denise's friendliness toward me shows why Nancy Garrido "should not be given any breaks at all," implying, of course, that I am or am likely to become another Philip Garrido; (7) Characterized the discussions we'd been having as "crap" ; (8) Said there were "enough people watching over the ridiculousness of these trouble makers," referring, obviously, to me in part; (8) Again characterized our discussions as "crap" (9) Called us "idiots"; and (10) Called me and whomever else "street scum."

Now, Brenda, are you prepared to come clean and admit that you mischaracterized the events of Monday evening?

Anonymous said...

That is why I suggested it Nagarjuna Goblinbee. But even so, anyone can take that test and learn how they react in argument, not just every day, all day. Is it a controlling form of arguing, or is it other.

Anonymous said...

More of the vacuum attempts huh Nagarjuna. Why must you constantly try to control. Are you depressed and bored?

Steve said...

Brenda, let's move on to the second issue. You implied that Samantha was justified in behaving the way she did because I had provoked her into it by disparaging her "ALL week long." Well, Brenda, I went back four entire days and looked at everything I posted over that time, and I didn't see where I said ANYTHING to or about Samantha until she came out of the woodwork that night to attack Denise and me. So, it would appear that you are very wrong about my having provoked her "ALL week long" into her outburst. Are you prepared to admit THIS too?

What's more, if you're going to say that she was justified in saying the things she did because of any and every disparaging thing I had ever said about her up until that time, then you should be fair and say that I have been justified in disparaging her by all the times she's disparaged me. However, parenthetically speaking, I don't think that one person's disparagements justifies retaliatory ones. It may explain the retaliations, but it doesn't justify them.

Anonymous said...

"AND I AM SORRY THAT YOU ALL (YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE NOW) FEEL COMPELLED TO SUPPORT THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOR .. ITS HURTFUL.."
(BrendaStar)

I hope you are not talking about me. I try to support what I see as the best in each person, and ignore--as much as is possible--the rest. Maybe this approach comes from years of being an elementary school teacher. Fifth grade is my favorite grade to teach, but there is no creature on the planet more obnoxious than a 10-12 year old boy. I always had a whole room full of them, and truly enjoyed them.

That's a lot of ignoring of bad behavior!

Anonymous said...

If you are not a pedophile, and this statement bothers you:

"pedophile trolling the blog for victims by "enticing them into conversation"

Why are you doing the exact thing that bothers you. Why are you trying to entice BrendaStar into conversation with you. She owes you nothing, she met you in a blog, why are you trying so hard to reel her into another day of discord.

Coonhound said...

B*,

Do you know what a fire ant is? Not just any red ant, but its called a fire ant. We have them all over the dang state of ga.

Anyway, nag can be like a fire ant bite. Once he gets to you...its an obnoxious burning cessation and maybe just a little redness. Then in a day or two...swelling starts and it itches like wild fire. The more you scratch it, the more it itches. Then it starts to hurt, but it still itches, so you just keep rubbing and scratching it. And the swelling intensifies and the skin eventually breaks from the scratching. At first there's a clear substance. And the itching continues, as does the burning, but the hurt is the worst now. Then finally a hard white knot or head appears. Its the infection from the bite. Its deeply embedded into the skin. Eventually it heals on its own or one can pick it out. Then a little pit remains, but all the other side effects are gone...the itching, swelling, soreness. Eventually it scabs over and heals. A scar can remain for a couple years. Sometimes the scar goes away and sometimes it doesn't...it depends on the person, their reaction to the bite and how much they scratch and pick at it.

Anonymous said...

"But even so, anyone can take that test and learn how they react in argument,..."

JeffSees, I agree.

BrendaStar said...

Coonhound,

Gotcha :) your point is well taken also... thank you

BrendaStar said...

I am sorry Goblinbee I apologize for lashing out..

BrendaStar said...

it wont happen again...

Steve said...

Goblinbee, there is a lot to be said for "ignoring bad behavior." But some behavior, such as making false accusations of a particularly scurrilous nature over and over is too "bad" to ignore unless and until the person responsible makes amends, and other behavior that makes some people uncomfortable isn't necessarily bad just because it makes them uncomfortable.

Yes, we want to encourage and nurture the best in people. But we should also be able to criticize and discourage the worst in people. That includes the worst in Brenda as well as it does the worst in me. In my opinion, people here should not be encouraged, either through commission or omission, to misrepresent or unjustly disparage people.

Coonhound said...

GoblinBee,

Goodmorning. I'm so sorry that your husband was at the hospital. This is a bad excuse, but I chose to wait on offering my condolences bc I didn't want them lost in the junk. But you have been heavily on my mind.

Steve said...

"Jeff," I have a question for you, if you care to answer. If you DO answer, I hope you'll answer honestly.

Did you post here Monday night as Cecil and/ or Nagarjuna? Have you ever posted here under any other usernames than JeffSees?

BrendaStar said...

Hey Boogie I got your comment im researching some information I have and Ill get back to you on your question with FBI and CIA and the chemicals, ect.

I found your research and comments wonderful, insightful, and interesting..thank you for posting them.

Anonymous said...

No Nagarjuna, did you?

Steve said...

You're honestly saying that you've NEVER posted here under ANY OTHER username than JeffSees?

BrendaStar said...

Nagarjuna,

Yup thats what he said GOT IT!!! LOVELY accusing others now too..

Steve said...

My answer to your question is: Not intentionally. One two or so occasions, I accidentally logged into the blog under my wife's Google account and under my alternate Google account. But I explained what happened and did not try to pass those posts off as coming from someone other than me.

BrendaStar said...

i believed you Nag when you said that sooooooooo who gives a shit drop it would ya.

Coonhound said...

B*,

Lol! Just to fill you in, I am very allergic to fire ant bites! My reaction to them is much worse than that of the average person. I get them often while gardening.

I have tiny lil scars from them all over my hands!

Steve said...

"Yup thats what he said GOT IT!!! LOVELY accusing others now too.."

Brenda, you misrepresent me again. I am NOT accusing him/her of lying. I just want to be very clear about this person's answer and to encourage this person to be completely honest with us now and always.

Steve said...

"i believed you Nag when you said that sooooooooo who gives a shit drop it would ya."

Let WHAT "drop," Brenda? What are you talking about. I was answering JEFF's question.

Anonymous said...

I see the tactic leading me into an argument Nagarjuna. There are issues of control and anger that you carry and that is of which I am interested in discussing with you, but nothing else. Do you want to talk about that?

BrendaStar said...

what makes you think hes not being completely honest???? only the great powerful Nag can bring out complete honesty in someone.. give me a break.. your provoking him into discussing this topic with you he said NO so leave it at that..we all did with you...

Anonymous said...

Do you not see these traits in you Nagarjuna. Why.

Blogger JeffSees said...

Researchers have only very recently begun to consider the effects of psychological abuse, focusing particularly on female victims. Many feminists, who suggest that the motive behind male-perpetrated violence against women is oppression and control, would surely suggest that control is the motive behind psychological abuse as well. This paper explores the possibility that it is the underlying control behind physical and psychological abuse that has the most negative effect on not only women, but on men as well. In a society where men are historically expected to be dominant over women, it may be particularly detrimental to a man’s mental well-being to be dominated – physically or psychologically – by a woman. The findings suggest that for both men and women, coercive control seems to have the most harmful effect in terms of depression compared to verbal and physical aggression. Not only does coercive control have the strongest bivariate relationship with depression, but it also appears that the effects of verbal aggression and physical abuse are both mediated by coercive control.

October 15, 2009 8:24 AM

BrendaStar said...

Coonhound :( your poor hands my friend... ill have to send you some burts bees hand lotion :) xo

Steve said...

Also, "Jeff," would you care to tell us if you're male? Or are you female? I ask only so that I know how to correctly refer to you indirectly. Should I say "he" or "she"? "Him" or "Her"?

Anonymous said...

BrendaStar. Do you have information on Jaycee Dugard?

BrendaStar said...

Freak

Oh my gosh they caught Jennifer Schuett's attacker!!!!!!! that is wonderful news thank you for posting this thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!

wow finally she gets justice and can sleep sound at night!!!!!

wow.. thank you again for posting that story I am so happy...

BrendaStar said...

he said yesterday hes a male!!!! hence the name Jeff...

Steve said...

"I see the tactic leading me into an argument Nagarjuna. There are issues of control and anger that you carry and that is of which I am interested in discussing with you, but nothing else. Do you want to talk about that?"

That seems disingenuous of you. I am not trying to lead you into argument. I would actually like to get away from argument and have real dialogue. But I'd like to get an idea of who you are, how honest you're prepared to be with us, and what you're motives are in coming here when you did.

So, would you care to answer the qeustions I put to you about your unsername(s) and your gender, or do you decline to answer, which is, of course, your prerogative?

Anonymous said...

Does your thought that a woman might have anything worthy of saying cause you to act out as follows:

"it may be particularly detrimental to a man’s mental well-being to be dominated – physically or psychologically – by a woman."

Is that why you continually put other individuals, specifically womens, perspective down?

BrendaStar said...

what kind of info Jeff? New or other stuff in general??

Anonymous said...

If this is it Nagarjuna, I do not see these women domineering you. All I see are individual thoughts of each. So why must you constantly berate them? Must you knock them down to a level you believe they should be. Must everyone follow you and your thoughts to remove themselves from your wrath of anger?

Anonymous said...

Any news or updates.

Anonymous said...

Brenda, no worries.

Steve said...

"he said yesterday hes a male!!!! hence the name Jeff..."

Yes, Brenda, "he" said it, and "he" may well have been telling the truth. But neither you nor I know for sure that "he" was. Of course, we won't know for sure that "he" is now if he claims it again. But if this person wasn't telling the truth yesterday, this person has a chance to come clean today and be respected for doing it.

Anonymous said...

Coonhound, thank you, that was so sweet. And I completely understand about not wanting to post something until things have calmed down. I've done that myself!

Anonymous said...

Oh my goodness. Many facets to you.

Steve said...

"Is that why you continually put other individuals, specifically womens, perspective down?"

First of all, are you declining to answer my question definitively about the username issue? Second, are you declining to answer my question about your gender? if you are, that's fine. But are you declining to do so?

Now, in answer to your question: What other perspectives have I "put down" in a way that was unjustified, other than the ones I've already apologized for and not repeated, and WHY was it unjustified? You may be inclined to point out that I'm answering your question with a question. But I can't answer your question until I know what "perspectives" I'm supposedly "putting down." For I would suggest that justifiably criticizing a perspective in a forum such as this is not out of place.

BrendaStar said...

Now you insist Jeff needs to come clean you are too much Nag too much Jeff dont even give him the satisfaction of a comment to that... ridiculous..

Anonymous said...

So when people offend you, you must have everyone else offened too, or what? What makes you attack others because they are not offended the way you are. Is it because they are not like you, or in support of you and your thoughts and acts?

Why do you care what other people think and feel? Why is it so important for you to "trash" other people who do not think like you. Why must you press to control these people?

BrendaStar said...

Nag,

he answered your questions you obviously cant read!

BrendaStar said...

no updates Jeff that I have heard n Jaycee except that her mom and ner are developing a great bond I have heard and as the girls are with their grandmother Terry Jaycee's mom.. so i think that is just wonderful. It has been confirmed that Jaycee, Terry, and Carl will testify against PG and NG and thats about all I know at this point.. not sure if the case is going to be tried in Placerville or here yet that is what I am unclear on..

Steve said...

"Now you insist Jeff needs to come clean you are too much Nag too much Jeff dont even give him the satisfaction of a comment to that... ridiculous.."

Brenda, I didn't say that "Jeff' "needs" to come clean if s/he has been lying to us; I said this is up to him/her. I merely said that if s/he has been lying, this would be a good time to admit it and we can proceed from there. If s/he has been telling the truth all along, fine.

It would be nice, Brenda, if you wouldn't continue to misrepresent me. Of course, you may not be capable of that. But if you are, it would be nice if you exercised that capability.

Anonymous said...

I realize the purpose in your asking my gender. You will like to push for an argument - you will like to pick apart my person - you will to show others I am nothing - you will like to overpower me.

Why Nagarjuna? Why do you need to diminish the value of others?

What haves you believing so little in yourself that you have have to bring others down to your level, or below your level. What level are you on. I know you said yesterday that you were superior, but that is not what your actions show. What has happened to you to devalue yourself so much that you need to do this.

Steve said...

"So when people offend you, you must have everyone else offened too, or what? What makes you attack others because they are not offended the way you are. Is it because they are not like you, or in support of you and your thoughts and acts?"

"Jeff," am I to take it that you decline to answer my previous questions about your username(s) and gender? If so, I hope everyone here is taking note of that, for whatever it's worth to them.

Anonymous said...

This is a beautiful story in the end BrendaStar. Jaycee Lee Dugard conquers her demons.

Steve said...

"Nag,

he answered your questions you obviously cant read!"

Brenda, my dear, when I said things like that to you, you became so upset that I was concerned for your well-being. But I guess you can say those kinds of things to others and it doesn't bother you a bit. Kind of like how you respect others if they respect you no matter how they treat people OTHER than you.

Anonymous said...

More tugs at pulling the crowd to you and away from others. Why can you not stand on your own to feet strong?

Anonymous said...

Nag, in what way did JeffSees not answer the username question?

"Did you post here Monday night as Cecil and/ or Nagarjuna? Have you ever posted here under any other usernames than JeffSees?" (Nagarjuna)

"No Nagarjuna, did you?" (JeffSees)

Coonhound said...

I don't see nagarjuna as an angry man.

Annoying, relentless, antagonizing at times.

But that hardly makes him angry or filled with wrath. He likes to be the center of attention and has issues with letting things go.

I've observed more serious issues coming from the posts of others.

Of course I've been labeled as "vicious" and "a nag follower" and accused of being denise.

Of course, we are all entitled to our own thoughts and opinions.

Right?

Steve said...

Now, my dear Brenda, as to your allegation that I can't read, I think my reading skill is just fine. Perhaps a heck of a lot better than yours, judging from our recent discussions.

"Jeff's" previous answer to my first posing of the username question seemed a little ambiguous in its laconity. I was just trying to get "perfectly clear" on the answer.

Anonymous said...

"Of course I've been labeled as "vicious" and "a nag follower" and accused of being denise."

LOL!

Anonymous said...

What is the end result you are looking for Nagarjuna? Are you going to have me banished from the pedophile blog?

BrendaStar said...

Jeff,
i think she will definitely conquer her demons and become the ultimate survivor and a beacon of strength, shes amazing.. :) shes already a beacon of strength, and courage.. Its a miracle im so happy she is here on this earth I cannot tell you how ecstatic I am for her and her mom..

Steve said...

Point well taken, Goblinbee. I seem to recall that "he" didn't quote my question or refer to it in "his" answer, so I thought it was possible "he" was trying to play games, and I just wanted to get clearer on the matter right from the get go. But if you are all satisfied with Jeff's "No," I will take it as "his" definitive answer. He is definitively claiming that he's only posted here as JeffSees.

BrendaStar said...

I am heartbroken over this poor boy that was burned by his peers im balling right now, It breaks my heart that children would do this to each other... :(

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